How do i edit the fossa image?

[bluedxca93]

Hi,

am very new to puppy linux. Just tested it and i like most parts of fossa pup. Just some few things that i don't like much:
Jwm is really great but icewm is more stable on my hardware. Also i know hiw to theme icewm better.
I would like to replace jwm with icewm.
And change the default theme. I know how to do that once im inside the file system image. Just how do i edit it?
For that i would need to modify the image i guess. And here comes the big question:
How do i edit the sfs files that it runs icewm instead of jwm.?

Kind and best regards bluedxca93

[foxpup]

Welcome to the kennels, bluedxca93,
welcome to Puppyland.

You can install icewm while running Fossapup with the Puppy Package Manager.
Or even better, you can compile it from source. (In Puppy yYou need the devx.sfs for compiling.)
Either way, you do not have to replace jwm, you can have both installed.
To start another wm you drop out of X and restart X with the wm:

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xwin icewm

If you have a pupsave (creation on first shutdown), the change will be saved for next boot.
The things you install as well go into the pupsave.

I do like icewm as well.
If you are patient, I will compile a .pet for icewm for the new Fossapup.
( A .pet is Puppy's own package format.)

You can enter iso and sfs files by just clicking them.

You can unpack/pack .sfs files from terminal with unsquashfs and squashfs commands.
Editing sfs files is not often done. Even less manually, like you seem to want.
Instead, changes (like installing and ininstalling) are saved in a pupsave.
And there are some tools in the menu
to mark installed packages for removal from the main.sfs
and to remaster the main.sfs.

[bluedxca93]

Hi first of all very thanks to your answer.wow that was a very fast response.Gives a very detailed information what is going on.You helped me alot already.

Now looked a bit deeper
Inside puppy_fossapup64_9.5.sfs there is a file /etc/windowmanager. And what is runned at start is .xinitrc from /root.

Icewm pet package would be nice.

[dogFellow]

downloaded from ppm in easyosbusta2.4.1
yeah so change the last line in your file to exec icewm from exec jwm

at quick look really cant see what the big deal is just different colours on the windows and lost my tray icon mods
switching back to jwm

[bluedxca93]

It makes a difference optically at least.

Well I would have to remvoe the backgound image from icewm. To save memory. .
Now i have icewm running as default.


The tray icons could be load onto icewm as well. Could you tell me how they are named so i can write the startup file for icewm.
Anyone knowing what script does reset the default gtk theme?

[foxpup]

at quick look really cant see what the big deal is just different colours on the windows and lost my tray icon mods
switching back to jwm

I agree, it is not much different.
In the beginnning it was a contester to jwm for Puppy.
Configuration of icewm is easier, but in Puppy jwm is so well supported it is not easier in Puppy, though not difficult at all.
I have used, and come to like it,
because it has better support of EWMH (Extended Window Manager Hints) which I needed for Work to run Citrix on 2 screens.
(Now Work has abandoned Citrix, except for heavy application, in favour of a VPN.)
Icewm has a vibrant community and development as well.

[foxpup]

Well I would have to remvoe the backgound image from icewm. To save memory. .

IIRC you have to start icewm-session with option for that.
Note that the background in Puppy is taken care of by a ROX pinboard, not jwm.
You may like to get to know about ROX panels as well.

The tray icons could be load onto icewm as well. Could you tell me how they are named so i can write the startup file for icewm.

I will sort that out and it will be in the .pet.
I need to sort out more things to make a nice .pet.
Puppy used to have some support for icewm besides jwm.
Like a little program to make the Puppy start menu properly (from xdg).
I will include that in the .pet if it is not in Fossapup already.

Anyone knowing what script does reset the default gtk theme?

You probably want to play with the Desktop Settings or the Puppy Theme Manager.
You can find them in the Puppy Start menu under Desktop.

[dogFellow]

mtpaint what you want /usr/share/backgrounds/

[bluedxca93]

Newer icewm versions create a nearly perfect xdg aware start menu.
I did now use the version from focal and the menu works . [The version from ubuntu trusty or xenial is not very stable.]

Yes i found the background image it is in two sfs files.

That links to lxappearance. A great tool imho.
Got that changed to and the icon theme.

Where are the translations located?
Abiword, palemoon and gnumeric are still untranslated. I extracted the pet as well as the focal language debs.

[PipzDex]

Hi bluedxca93
if you wanna edit the main sfs, check my PUC 2.0, is a pet with some interesting scripts that will help you unzip and create common files such as PET's and SFS's

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Check it out and tell me if it worked for you
Cheers

[dogFellow]

stuff from the bottom tray is in
/root/.jwmrc-tray

but i have extra stuff
eg TAS screenshot, rox /root, pfind , calculator, console, seamonkey and slimjet
plus other useful custom scripts

[bluedxca93]

Hi,
the main question how to edit the sfs is answered now.
Someone able to send me the link for the german translation files? All i can find is from 2013.
As far as i am now

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The startup file for icewm-session:

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#!/bin/bash
retrovol -hide &
netmon_wce &
freememapplet_tray &
firewallstatus &
clipit &

ah you mean the panel icons-/launchers. They could be done too in icewm. Search that later.

The tool to extract files seems interesting. Do test it next days and write how i find it then.
kind regards bluedxca93