How to uninstall programs in puppy linux Bionicpup32?

[Ioan]

Hello guys
I have a Fujitsu Esprimo P5905 on which i have installed Bionicpup32 8.0 .
I've installed Seamonkey browser to test it but now i want to remove it because can,'t play videos .
The program was installed from menu - internet - get webrowser .
I think it is a sfs file .
I've tried Package program manager but it's not there .
If possible please explain as for dummies
Thanks

[BologneChe]

@Ioan

Check for SFS file
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[mikewalsh]

@Ioan :-

Um; when you say SeaMonkey can't play videos, would you care to explain a bit further, please? It's possible it could be too old.

Browser age will depend on where exactly it's come from. Peebee is pretty good at keeping stuff up to date, although he's the Chromium expert, when all's said & done; SeaMonkey used to be Puppy's default browser, though it has to some extent fallen out of favour in recent years, so is not as popular as it used to be. And what exactly happens when you try to play a video in the browser?

The Pentium D 820 is perfectly capable of playing videos; a dual-core, at nearly 3 GHz clock speed, and up to SSE3 instructions, they were the forerunner of the Core2Duo......and those had an enviable reputation.

It's most likely that 512MB of RAM which is holding you back. You do know you can upgrade that Esprimo all the way up to 8 GB of RAM, don't you? 4 slots - DDR2 sticks maxed out at 2 GB for the largest......well; do the maths!

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Modern browsers are RAM hogs, and it's reckoned that Bionic32 really wants at least 1 GB of RAM to be totally happy. A few more gigs of RAM wouldn't hurt, and DDR2 is pretty cheap nowadays....

Either that, or you need a newer version of SeaMonkey; YouTube, in particular, are constantly moving the goalposts with regards to video codecs'n'stuff. In the browser, what does Menu->Help->About Seamonkey tell you?

Mike.

[Ioan]

Thank you guys for the replies and solutions,
Thanks to BologneChe link i found how i can unload Sfs file and i unloaded .

Mikewalsh i have already Chromium and it shows the videos - slowly and like pulsating .
I have installed 5 Gb ram (2 slots of 2 gb and one of 500 mb ) but it shows only 3.6 . Probably it's fujitsu limit for rams.
But i wanted something more and i added seamonkey .
Seamonkey doesn't load youtube is just frozen on a image where you can see only the frames of videos .
So i've unloaded because Chromium is better .

Thank you

[xenial]

Videos work just fine in seamonkey via the DDG search engine and i have viewed hundreds of youtube videos there but it rather depends on the search results from DDG.

I use the mobile version of youtube in seamonkey and palemoon and they work just fine but some of the functions like like forward and reverse buttons are affected.

The only problem i would see here is if you have subscriptions to youtube channels as the latest videos do not appear in DDG search results.

it clearly shows that seamonkey is more than capable of running youtube videos but the youtube site which incorparates google webcomponents etc dismiss the browser on petty grounds.

[mikeslr]

Hi loan,

You might want to try MikeWalsh's Vivaldi-portable, https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... CUWxKCPO7x or slimjet-portable, https://mega.nz/folder/yaRhwICQ#qODo0dx4DTpXMn24gocIiw

Try slimjet first. The vivaldi is on Mike's google drive and google is picky: it may not allow you access using seamonkey. So while you have slimjet, use it to download vivaldi.

There have been several posts praising vivaldi, suggesting that it is very fast/responsive. My experience is that that's true. But only once it has opened. At takes a while to open so don't panic. [I also find vivaldi's GUI too busy. Others find all the built-in tools useful].

[Rather than booting into one of my 32-bit Puppys, I SFS-Loaded the 32-bit compatibility SFS for Fossapup64. That enabled it to run 32-bit applications]. Both the 32-bit portables of vivaldi and slimjet were able to run Youtubes with sound.

Remember these are portables. You don't SFS-Load or install them. Download the tar.gz. Right-Click it. Select UExtract from the pop-up menu. This will create a folder ending with the word 'extracted'. Inside that is the portable-folder, itself. Move THAT folder wherever you want. In That folder you'll find a script named 'LAUNCH'. Left-Click it to start the web-browser.

As it's on google-drive, getting Vivaldi is a little trickier. The easiest way is to click the "Download" button at the Top-Right. The file that will download is a 'zip'. Use UExtract as explained above to 'unzip' it. Inside the unzipped folder will be the tar.gz you decompress as explained above. [Google wants to know everything that everyone is doing. If you want to download just the tar.gz google insists that you allow 3rd party cookies].

In the slimjet folder is another script named MenuAdd. It will create a menu-listing regardless of where you've placed the slimjet folder. Vivaldi-portable doesn't have that. [Yet, MikeWalsh, perhaps for your next update?] If you want a menu entry let us know. We'll figure it out.

[mikeslr]

Another possibility with youtube videos:

Follow the links to either firefox-portable32 or firefoxESR-portable32 from here to MikeWalsh's repo on mega.nz. Download the 'tar.gz' and decompress it as explained previously for slimjet.

firefox uses more ram so STEAMING youtubes might be as bad or worse than seamonkey. But there are several addons that will enable you to DOWNLOAD videos with sound from youtube.

Easy Youtube Downloader, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefo ... ent=search works, sort-of. I was able to download several videos and then play them. Downloading others, however, seems to stall. [Maybe copyright issues?].

You could try the other youtube downloaders for firefox. 'Easy' just seemed the easiest.

p.s. I know that there are posts on the forum for an desktop application to download youtube videos. But I think it's only for 64-bit operating systems.

[mikewalsh]

@Ioan :-

Mikewalsh i have already Chromium and it shows the videos - slowly and like pulsating .
I have installed 5 Gb ram (2 slots of 2 gb and one of 500 mb ) but it shows only 3.6 . Probably it's fujitsu limit for rams.
But i wanted something more and i added seamonkey .
Seamonkey doesn't load youtube is just frozen on a image where you can see only the frames of videos .
So i've unloaded because Chromium is better .

Mm. Sounds to me more like you're running into the 32bit PAE limit. I have 32 GB RAM here, and all four of the 32-bit Pups that I run show the full amount, because they're using PAE-enabled kernels.

Run the following command in the terminal, please, followed by hitting 'Enter':-

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uname -ra

If you could copy/paste the output into your next reply, that would be much appreciated. It'll either confirm or deny what I suspect. Thanks.

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With regard to mikeslr's observation about Seamonkey, yah.....I'd forgotten that. Google - YouTube's owners - tend to optimize the code for the Chromium browsers. There's been something of a long-running 'grudge match' between Google & Mozilla over YT code for years. Google 'upgrade it'; Mozilla do their best to make Firefox compatible with it, then no sooner have Mozilla got YT working than Google decide it's time to 'upgrade' things once more.....and so the cycle starts all over again.

It's not entirely SeaMonkey's fault, due to what I stated above.....but the same holds true for any 'zilla-based browser, and is simply this; for functional YT, 'zilla-based browsers MUST be kept up-to-date because of the constant code changes.

Mike.

[Ioan]

Thank you for the replies ,
I've tried Vivald browser (i think it was a sfs ) 3-4 months ago and i was dissapointed . Was slower than chromium . I had to wait longer till the videos were loading .
I don't want to try again to install vivaldi because i don't know how to unintsall in the much probably case that it will be the same and would ocupy space and slow down the pc .
Still thank you Mikeslr for explain how to install tar.gz and zip files . I wanted to know and searched youtube and google but i didn't get it .
I believe that Chromium is one of the fastest at least for my pc . It is from 2006 so i can't ask for more .

Mikewalsh i believe that this is the ram limit of my pc .
Back when i had windows xp , the rams were still 3.something not 4.5 or 5 Gb .
This is the result after the comand:
" Linux puppypc5111 4.9.163-lxpup-32-pae #1 SMP Thu Mar 14 15:41:19 GMT 2019 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux "
This is the result after checking the rams :
# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 3269 286 1948 397 1035 2277
Swap: 63 0 63
#

I've opened task manager and it show 356 M usage (from 3269 ) after chromium ,terminal and a word file are opened .
I think that puppy is running good regarding the features of the pc .