Skanlite not in the jwm tray

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Skanlite not in the jwm tray

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I find skanlite as a very good tool for scanning, but there is one weird thing, it doesn't show up in the jwm tray (either as appimage or installed app). I've never experienced this with any other application. With Icewm it's OK. Does anyone know how to fix it?

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Re: Skanlite not in the jwm tray

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What specific version of Puppy Linux?

Do you get a menu entry for it?

Are you asking to have an icon for it, in the tray, that you can click on, to run it?

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Re: Skanlite not in the jwm tray

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Have you entered the JWM desktop manager and added scanlite to the launch section.?

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Re: Skanlite not in the jwm tray

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@riedzig :-

There's ways to get a launch icon in the QuickLaunch area immediately next to the Menu button. This is normally dependent on having a working MenuEntry, although one CAN be created independent of the usual file-structure if you know what you're doing. If you don't have a MenuEntry showing, it's almost certainly just a case of modifying the .desktop entry in /usr/share/applications; not all the categories - as given for Gnome, KDE, Unity, etc. - will show up in the Puppy Menu. (Some are peculiar to certain DEs, and ROX/JWM, too, has its own unique way of doing things.)

Do you have a Menu entry showing for Skanlite?

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If you wish, there's also ways to get a launch icon in the notification area, over on the right-hand side of the tray. I use a lot of these myself, and it's a trifling matter to set one up, along with a context menu, if required.

As bigpup has requested, please let us know exactly which Puppy & version you're using. Thanks.

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Re: Skanlite not in the jwm tray

Post by HerrBert »

Not sure if the op is about Quicklaunch (Tray)Button or JWM tasklist for showing running applications.
In the second case it is possible that the app suppresses it with something like gtkdialogs skip-taskbar-hint="true" or, if its window classname is applet, it may be affected by a <Group> setting in .jwmrc

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Re: Skanlite not in the jwm tray

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I admit that my words were not clear. It was about the tasklist where you can see running apps (with one active on the screen). Skanlite is the only one among hundreds that does not appear there. When I run it, the tasklist shows no active app.
I made all possible changes in .jwmrc, AppRun, .desktop file - without success.

I'm on fossapup64 and xenialpup64. Please try appimages on apprepo.de web or
https://s3-eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/d ... ppimage%2F

and confirm or not this issue. You won't need a scanner for it.

As I said, in icewm and also fluxbox and blackbox it is OK

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Re: Skanlite not in the jwm tray

Post by OscarTalks »

First of all, skanlite is a KDE application and you would need to be a BIG fan of it to justify installing it via Package Manager in Puppy because it will install a HUGE number/amount of dependencies (as with anything KDE). To be honest I had never heard of it before. I hardly ever do any scanning, but there must be suitable alternatives.

Having said that, I did a test install in JammyPup32 and can confirm that there is no JWM tray button to accompany the initial window that opens. It could be some peculiarity or bug with JWM or maybe JWM configuration is missing something that is needed for this, but unfortunately I don't have a fix to offer. Maybe someone who understands these things better than me will investigate.

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Re: Skanlite not in the jwm tray

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@recobayu :-

I, too, can confirm the lack of a tasklist icon. I've just had this running in jrb's 'lite' spin on Barry's old Quirky64 April 7.0.1 - my 'daily driver' - from around 2014/15. Fires straight up with no complaints.

Haven't yet tried it as an actual scanner app, but it correctly detects the scanner component of my old Epson SX218 all-in-one, and even the installed Epson utility I have for it. One thing I like about several of these KDE 'apps' that I use is that in most cases, they rely upon just a simple .rc file for configuration. Which makes everything super-easy to work with, and makes it a piece of cake to turn them into 'portables'.

Whilst I definitely agree with Oscar about the enormous size of these things - due to the huge number of KDE-specific dependencies - I WILL state that I think this is no longer such an issue for Puppians, because quite a few of us are now running far more capable hardware than we used to, along with powerful, much-faster CPUs and copious dollops of RAM.

Thanks for digging this up for us! I may portabilize it; we'll see.

(EDIT:- Oh, I like this. It does a better job than Epson's own Iscan! ever did for me..! For me, this build is far better; apprepo.de packages are all built on the very newest, bang-up-to-date systems, so will only run on the same. This older build - v2.0.1, from 2017 - is way more flexible.) :D

Mike. :thumbup:

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