Why does Fossapup show 200~300 MB of data uploads every day?

[sinczar]

I've been running Puppylinux Fossapup and my network icon in the taskbar shows approximately 200-300MB of data uploading daily. Is this normal? If so what types of data are being sent and where?

Thanks

Rich D.

[user1234]

It shows the amount of data that you used for whatever task you did. Puppy doesn't use any data itself.

Is this normal?

Well, it all depends on your own daily data usage.

[mikewalsh]

Hallo, @sinczar. And to the "kennels".

Quite a few folks ask this. It comes more from ex-Windows users than anyone else, because network tray icons in Linux tend to display somewhat different data to their Windows counterpart.

Do bear in mind that every time you open a webpage in your browser, a miniscule amount of data is swapped between Puppy and that particular site.....usually pertaining to cookies, stuff like that. Identifying information, designed to make your browsing experience smoother & easier.

If you're a heavy browser, and spend a lot of time online, 200-300 MB of uploaded data is easily achievable. It soon adds up.

Mike.

[xenial]

This is one of the things i love about puppy is the fact there is no telemetry or update checks of any kind.

I would hate to think what windoze uploads on a daily basis....
It narrowes down to the browser...although browsers should be GET requests rather than POST.

I don't know what software you have installed or what update method they use..third party apps and software etc.

[Feek]

Is this normal? If so what types of data are being sent and where?

Just a small addition:

every time you boot, puppy package manager updates automatically the database files.
It loads slightly over 10 MB of data and it´s completely normal, because for installing latest versions of apps you need to know the newest state of the repository.

The rest is probably your online activity as was already explained.

[xenial]

Just to add..
the package manager automatic update can be disabled if so desired which is what i did and then update manually via the PPM itself.

[user1234]

I would hate to think what windoze uploads on a daily basis....

One day my windows 10 updated (though it was manual) and used up my whole data plan (I got 3gb per day at that time). Usually windows update that I got were not very big (except for 1-2 big sized updates yearly)

[williams2]

netstat -untap typed in a terminal will show you connections.

iftop and nethogs are small programs that you can install using ppm (Puppy Package Manager.)

[dimkr]

every time you boot, puppy package manager updates automatically the database files.

Are you sure about that? Where is the code that does this?

[Feek]

every time you boot, puppy package manager updates automatically the database files.

Are you sure about that? Where is the code that does this?

In Fossapup64, the "root/startup" folder contains the script "PPMupdatedatabase". Its content is:

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#!/bin/sh
sleep 90
exec pkg ru

There is one more thread on this topic.
Is this a misunderstanding on my part?

[dimkr]

Is this a misunderstanding on my part?

Nope.

I didn't know pkg does that.

[rockedge]

Yes Pkg-cli updates the local repos every time at system start. I think it does in Bionic64 as well. Easy enough to disable as described in the posts above.

Another note, I have been running iftop that I installed and let run for a while on an idling Fossapup with nothing extra running, and for some reason there is a periodic ping to amazon and immediately associated with that, there is a ping to Google happening. I'll have to track that down since there is no browser running at all

[666philb]

Is this a misunderstanding on my part?

Nope.

I didn't know pkg does that.

the script could do with being more sophisticated like waiting until you've connected and not running everytime you start x.

[666philb]

Yes Pkg-cli updates the local repos every time at system start. I think it does in Bionic64 as well. Easy enough to disable as described in the posts above.

Another note, I have been running iftop that I installed and let run for a while on an idling Fossapup with nothing extra running, and for some reason there is a periodic ping to amazon and immediately associated with that, there is a ping to Google happening. I'll have to track that down since there is no browser running at all

is this on a vanilla install?

hmmm .. wonder if it's conky? i pinched part of the conkyrc from one of the debian dogs and this part tests for a connection

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${color2}NET: EXT: ${alignr}  ${execi 3600 wget -O - -q icanhazip.com} ${if_up eth0}

[rockedge]

@666philb Yes it is a fresh install of Fossapup64-9.5 with iftop installed.

It does seem likely to be from the conky configuration! That does make a lot of sense. I have to start that system up again and watch it again for awhile with conky turned off.