Not enough memory on boot

[Sharo]

Thank you for shearing your great work with us!

Tested Fatdog64-812 on USB flash drive with DELL XPS 17 9700:
RAM - 16GB
Video - Intel Comet Lake UHD, GeForce GTX 1650Ti,
Sound - Intel Display Audio, Intel Smart SoundTechnology (Intel SST), NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible)(WDM),

1...boot with "Start Fatdog64" - "No enough memory...", does not boot! Will you help me to correct this issue, the laptop has 16GB memory?
2...boot with "Fatdog64 for slow BIOS and bootloaders"
...boot-OK, Video-OK, Internet-OK but NO Sound-detects, only HDMI outputs, sound on USB headphones-OK.
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Tested Fatdog64-812 on USB flash drive with HP HDX X18T-1100 CTO Premium:
RAM - 8GB
Video - NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT.
Sound - Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio (A3)
3...boot with "Start Fatdog64" - "No enough memory...", does not boot! Will you help me to correct this issue, the laptop has 8GB memory?
4...boot with "Fatdog64 for slow BIOS and bootloaders"
...boot-OK, Video-OK, Internet-OK, Sound-OK.
Thank you!

[LateAdopter]

There was a problem with Grub4DOS that prevented booting on my AMD Athlon 3000G system with the large initrd but it booted OK with the nano initrd. The issue was fixed by an updated Grub4DOS specifically grldr. The updated file was included at the last minute on the fatdog ISO in early 2020 but there were older copies too.

It's possible that this issue affects other bootloaders too since I never had a problem with my older PCs.

It's possible that an older bootloader version was included on the 812 ISO, but I have never tried booting the ISO.
From the old forum:

#191 Post by LateAdopter » Sun 16 Feb 2020, 06:52

jamesbond wrote:
@LateAdopter - I read the commit, it looks correct (we applied similar patches to all of our grub2 builds). I'm updating the packages as we speak and the update will be in final.

I can't advise you how to non-destructively "test" grub4dos installed in PBS; I simply can't remember, but I'm quite certain that you cannot just temporarily rename "grldr" with the new copy; as PBS has a pointer to the file and will fail to boot if you do so. If you have a throwaway flashdrive that you can use for testing, it will be a lot safer.

I have tested the updated grub4dos on my AM4 Athlon 3000G system. It now boots correctly with the large initrd with no won't fit error.
Luckily the change only affects Stage 2, so replacing grldr was all that was necessary. No installation needed, because Stage 1 searches for grldr.

Thank you.

[step]

@Sharo, exactly how did prepare the USB flash drive to boot Fatdog64?
Regarding no speaker sound on your DELL, maybe it is just missing firmware. Try:

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# dmesg | grep -i firmware

in a console window to see if it reports unable to load any firmware.
If firmware is not an issue, open Fatdog Control Panel > Sound > Fatdog64 Set Default Sound Card and see if you can change the default sound card to one that works with your speakers.

[oui]

What is the matter using the GNU grub (you can start easily SliTaz.

as SliTaz is extremely tiny you need only a few minutes to install it on some very old USB key or CD and you can start with it live from one of those memories.

is SliTaz running, you can actualize the system, this will load the actual list of offered packages. and you will find grub at this depot. see for the manpage or follow the instructions...

note: an Puppy package for Grub exists also. but, of course, you have to start Puppy itself before you can use it ... but it is really rare to meet the situation, where it would not be possible to start Puppy from CD or USB key. Did you try that?

[Sharo]

Fatdog64-812

1.# dmesg | grep -i firmware
[ 27.642086] Bluetooth: hci0: Firmware revision 0.0 build 32 week 28 2021
[ 28.985461] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: loaded firmware version 59.601f3a66.0 QuZ-a0-hr-b0-59.ucode op_mode iwlmvm
[ 29.209197] i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] Finished loading DMC firmware i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin (v1.4)
[ 29.300744] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: pmu: firmware unavailable
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a) Fatdog64-812 is detecting HDMI outputs only!

2 All usb flash sticks were made according descriptions on Fatdog64 web site,
but for all "Start Fatdog64" - "No enough memory..."
runs only with "Fatdog64 for slow BIOS and bootloaders"

3. lubuntu-21.10-desktop-amd64 and EndeavourOS_Atlantis_neo-21_5 on a USBstick from Rufus are detecting:
"Intel Display Audio, Intel Smart SoundTechnology (Intel SST), NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible)(WDM)" and
"Intel Comet Lake UHD, GeForce GTX 1650Ti",
and I have nice sound on DELL XPS 17 9700!

[Sharo]

CORRECTION:
With endeavouros-2021.08.27-x86_64 and lubuntu-21.10-desktop-amd64 I have nice sound on DELL XPS 17 9700!
Wtth EndeavourOS_Atlantis_neo-21_5 and linuxmint-20.2-xfce-64bit, I have NO sound on DELL XPS 17 9700!

[jamesbond]

1. Sound problem: you need a newer kernel. Kernel 5.10.63 which is available in the http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/kernels/810/ will work for you. You can use either this one http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/kernel ... rd-5.10.63 (combined kernel+initrd) or the individual vmlinuz + kernel modules.sfs. Follow the instructions here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... ernel.html and when it works, you may want to follow the instructions here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/kernel.html

2. "Not enough memory problems ..." what's the BIOS type of your laptops? Is it legacy BIOS, or is it UEFI? Are you booting directly from the USB, or do you use existing bootloaders you have already installed in your system? How did you prepare the USB, did you use Rufus/Etcher or others ?

[AntonioPt]

Hello Fat Dogs i have tried to run a live fatdog in my new Machine and this is the result

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5300U CPU @ 2.30GHz (2.31GHz)
• Memory: 15.0 GiB Total (14.1 GiB Free)
• Storage: 347.3 GB / 519.0 GB (171.7 GB Free)
• VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 @ Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OP

Test it in Fatdog 811 and 812

i share a 7z file since pics werent been display correct
Best regards Antonio

[Krishna]

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[AntonioPt]

SAVE_20220111_104627.jpg

Ok figure out what happens LibreWolf-94.0-1 screw ups the image lolol

[JakeSFR]

Not enough memory to load specified image.

It might be the case that BIOS reports an incorrect amount of available memory to the kernel.

You should try to append the boot parameter mem=1952M or other values to the boot parameters (pressing TAB key in the first boot menu). This parameter tells the kernel how much memory your computer has, sometimes the BIOS does not provide the correct number, so you need to specify it.

Greetings!

[peterw]

In the kernel line of the boot menu after the Puppy reference add "mem=1950" without the quotes. It will use this to boot but will use the full RAM when booted as I understand it.