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Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background? [SOLVED]

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Are you supposed to make a monochrome graphic for any color you want?

The only option I see is to "Clear" the background which completely erases it, including all icons, and appears to apply ROX's Pinboard Background.

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background (no wallpaper)?

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JWM owns the "desktop". The desktop can have a solid color. No icons because JWM has no icons, ROX-Filer does. The desktop is usually permanently covered by the ROX-Filer pinboard, so you shouldn't be too much concerned what color the JWM desktop has.

ROX-Filer's pinboard background becomes visible when you clear any image from the "Backdrop" dialog. Icons remain visible. Monochrome background color can be set with ROX-Filer -> Options -> Pinboard -> Background dialog.

So what exactly do you want to change? JWM or ROX-Filer background?

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background (no wallpaper)?

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MochiMoppel wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:40 pm

ROX-Filer's pinboard background becomes visible when you clear any image from the "Backdrop" dialog. Icons remain visible. Monochrome background color can be set with ROX-Filer -> Options -> Pinboard -> Background dialog.

So what exactly do you want to change? JWM or ROX-Filer background?

By default (coincidentally in Xenial) the JWM background is an image.

You can tile this image, stretch it, center it, etc.

Normally in an os you can delete the image and use the desktop color as your background.

The only option for that I've seen in JWM is to Clear the desktop, which completely clears it, erasing all desktop icons.

In my case it went off-white from Pinboard. If you restore the icons, it restores the wallpaper.

I can create colors boxes like the standard pink, purple, grey, black, etc, but this is an indirect way to achieve this same result.

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background (no wallpaper)?

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Forget JWMdesk. Despite its name it doesn't manipulate the JWM background. Background in JWMdesk means ROX-Filer background.
It's easier to right click on any desktop icon, select "Backdrop" and clear the image. Should give you a monochrome background with all icons intact. Then right click again and select ROX-Filer -> Options -> Pinboard -> Background to change the background color.

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background (no wallpaper)?

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@JASpup :-

As Mochi says, the JWMDeskManager moniker IS a bit misleading. I think it was used as much for a familiar point of reference to folks used to conventional DEs, as for anything else.

As you're no doubt aware, a 'conventional' Desktop Environment handles everything; wallpaper, background, title bars, window frames, notification area, file-manager integration.....the lot. Puppy uses two items to arrive at the same functionality, both of which, together, are far more lightweight than an equivalent 'full' DE. AFAIK, much of this lightness comes from being written in the XML 'markup' language, as opposed to the conventional C+, etc, etc.

ROX's 'pinboard' is, I believe, an extension of the file-manager's functionality, and is what allows file-manager integration between desktop and file-system. JWM itself is JUST a window-manager.....and nothing more. The Puppy 'combo' has the same functionality as a mainstream DE, but don't expect it to work the same way..!

I'm probably waffling here, and Mochi will slap my wrist for getting my facts wrong.....but that's as I understand it.

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mikewalsh wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:45 pm

much of this lightness comes from being written in the XML 'markup' language, as opposed to the conventional C+, etc, etc.

interesting. I think LXQt has C/++ roots. Horsing around with Tahr quickpet recently I noticed a difference pre-apps between XFCE-JWM of about 20M (Task Manager memory). A couple alt-desktops on this site's download page would doubtlessly fire up Puppy's distro rank.

MochiMoppel wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:40 pm

ROX-Filer's pinboard background becomes visible when you clear any image from the "Backdrop" dialog. Icons remain visible. Monochrome background color can be set with ROX-Filer -> Options -> Pinboard -> Background dialog.

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background? [SOLVED]

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Hello,
How would you change the background that Rox Filer displays when browsing files (the background of folders)?
Thanks,

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background? [SOLVED]

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CelsoIII wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:24 am

Hello,
How would you change the background that Rox Filer displays when browsing files (the background of folders)?
Thanks,

hi @Celsolll,
the background colour can be changed in rox-filer options. e.g. right click on any desktop icon or inside an open rox window, then choose 'ROX-Filer' >> 'Options' >> 'Colours'

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background? [SOLVED]

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Yes, moshimoshi cleared this up very long time ago newbie post.

I'm onto stuff like creating local directories for ppm repositories:
http://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3398

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background? [SOLVED]

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666philb wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:07 pm

the background colour can be changed in rox-filer options. e.g. right click on any desktop icon or inside an open rox window, then choose 'ROX-Filer' >> 'Options' >> 'Colours'

Which version?
In all versions I know - even in Fossapup64 - this would change only the foreground colors.

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background? [SOLVED]

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MochiMoppel wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:06 am
666philb wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:07 pm

the background colour can be changed in rox-filer options. e.g. right click on any desktop icon or inside an open rox window, then choose 'ROX-Filer' >> 'Options' >> 'Colours'

Which version?
In all versions I know - even in Fossapup64 - this would change only the foreground colors.

you're right ... it's the gtk2 theme that determines the background colour

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Yes, I am running Linux Fatdog and dont have Rox>Options>Colours available for the background, only for foreground... https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kcq8ugKB1fZ7jqrb9

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background? [SOLVED]

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666philb wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:07 pm
CelsoIII wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:24 am

Hello,
How would you change the background that Rox Filer displays when browsing files (the background of folders)?
Thanks,

hi @Celsolll,
the background colour can be changed in rox-filer options. e.g. right click on any desktop icon or inside an open rox window, then choose 'ROX-Filer' >> 'Options' >> 'Colours'

The Rox Filer colour option seems to be available only for the directory items (foreground) but not for the background. I am able to change the background color through GTK Theme changer but the modification is only effective on Rox filer windows that are already open; any new windows open with the default white bg. It seems that any changes made to the bg through GTK are overridden.
See desktop printscreen with notes: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kcq8ugKB1fZ7jqrb9
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Since my experience stops at 32/64 Xenial, I'm assuming this is just a new/different way to do the same thing.

Clear the backdrop then go to pinboard options for every JWM Puppy I boot.

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background? [SOLVED]

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JASpup wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:44 am

Since my experience stops at 32/64 Xenial, I'm assuming this is just a new/different way to do the same thing.

Clear the backdrop then go to pinboard options for every JWM Puppy I boot.

Ther's a new JWMDesk 3.0 just out recently, it has a section which allows the changing oft he desktop background to a solid colour, also the colour of the file icons can be changed to a different colour.

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Re: Solid Color JWMdesk Desktop Appearance Background? [SOLVED]

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TerryH wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:27 pm

Ther's a new JWMDesk 3.0 just out recently, it has a section which allows the changing oft he desktop background to a solid colour, also the colour of the file icons can be changed to a different colour.

O-kay, so a function was moved or duplicated. JWMDesk is probably more intuitive than looking for the pinboard.

My icons come from mixed sets & don't look much like default.

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