Any musicians using a Windows DAW with WINE?

[JASpup]

I was surprised to see this, but as often the case it's just one guy off somewhere:

Cakewalk Pro Audio 9
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... on&iId=329

It does everything I want, and I've yet to find something comparable in Linux or more modern.

[mikewalsh]

@JASpup :-

You may be interested in 10wt3ch's "Studio 13.37":-

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=126

It's a good item to keep on a flash-drive for those occasions when you want to do this kind of thing. There are several items here running from WINE.

Mike.

[taersh]

I've yet to find something comparable in Linux or more modern.

Qtractor, Ardour, Rosegarden, MusE, LMMS.
There's plenty of great Audio- and MIDI-Sequencers.

Ardour is a bit complicated when it comes to MIDI and/or cutting audio files.
I'm using Qtractor for some years now. Compiling always the newest version by myself.
So, if you are running 10wt3ch's "Studio 13.37" here's some of the newest versions to find:
viewtopic.php?f=88&t=114

[JASpup]

Yes. I've run Rosegarden and it's very glitchy. I had weird jumpy display problems.

If I were 20 I'd think about starting over with a new setup, but it's interesting to see what's out there.

I was incredulous about WINE. I'm interested in how functional it is for anything more than gaming.

[ted4291]

Like you I have been using Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 in wine. Unfortunately while everything else works my notation fonts are improper when I view a midi file track in the notation view. Is your notation view working and do you have any ideas on how to fix the incorrect notation fonts...many thanks if you can advise on this problem.

[JASpup]

Like you I have been using Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 in wine. Unfortunately while everything else works my notation fonts are improper when I view a midi file track in the notation view. Is your notation view working and do you have any ideas on how to fix the incorrect notation fonts...many thanks if you can advise on this problem.

The one guy off somewhere isn't me.

I boot Cakewalk in XP, and I've seen that problem which I do not understand.

Notation view is the biggest reason I still need/use Cakewalk.

I've had luck playing MIDI files from apps in the ppm (mentioned by user taersh), but haven't seen the note editing as comfortable and facile as Cakewalk's staff view.

In Windows there appears to be a difference running Cakewalk as an Admin vs User, if that points you in the right direction. Last boot as Admin I didn't get the font error.

[geo_c]

Reaper runs just fine for me in Jackalpup (And I'm sure it's equally as effective in straight up Fossa,) which is the modern incarnation of the original 1337 studio, or what we use to call Puppy Studio. I use the latest wine app image found on the forum in additional software. I prefer using Ardor, which is mighty powerful using Jack and other linux applications all included in Jackalpup -- re-mastered by puddlemoon using a real-time kernel. It's seamlessly stable, and looks good (though I've tweaked the theme quite a bit) and you can't go wrong. It's my main OS for everyday life, and allowed me to format all my hard drives and ditch Windows forever. I'm a professional musican/educator/performer. Music is my lively-hood. I was very happy with Pre-Sonus Studio One, which I think is the best DAW package out there. But I haven't even tried it on Linux, because with Jackalpup I simply don't miss Studio One at all.

I have made use of portable builds, for instance the latest version of Musescore, Linux Multi-media Studio for midi editing, and Reaper. Definitely take at look at this distro listed in the Puppy re-master section. Also puddlemoon has been extremely responsive to questions and comments.

~geo

[JASpup]

It's my main OS for everyday life, and allowed me to format all my hard drives and ditch Windows forever. I'm a professional musican/educator/performer. Music is my lively-hood. I was very happy with Pre-Sonus Studio One, which I think is the best DAW package out there. But I haven't even tried it on Linux, because with Jackalpup I simply don't miss Studio One at all.

That's a testament in itself that you can commit to Linux as a pro.

I still... I've just been toying. Audacity in Windows on my XP laptop (the one that usually boots X-Tahr) runs better than any version in Puppy, and it's older.

The best luck I've had is in LMMS, but latency is only tolerable on a fast 64 machine. Either Rosegarden or MusE I remember plays MIDI well but didn't make the easiest editor.

I would have to master piano roll to feel comfortable in LMMS, and I'd just as soon keep Cakewalk alive, though it won't play .sf2 without a Soundblaster card.

I haven't spent much time in it, more looking at single apps, but the most promising Studio I've booted is Ubuntu (4?).

What pray tell makes a kernel realtime?

[geo_c]

It's my main OS for everyday life, and allowed me to format all my hard drives and ditch Windows forever. I'm a professional musican/educator/performer. Music is my lively-hood. I was very happy with Pre-Sonus Studio One, which I think is the best DAW package out there. But I haven't even tried it on Linux, because with Jackalpup I simply don't miss Studio One at all.

That's a testament in itself that you can commit to Linux as a pro.

I still... I've just been toying. Audacity in Windows on my XP laptop (the one that usually boots X-Tahr) runs better than any version in Puppy, and it's older.

The best luck I've had is in LMMS, but latency is only tolerable on a fast 64 machine. Either Rosegarden or MusE I remember plays MIDI well but didn't make the easiest editor.

I would have to master piano roll to feel comfortable in LMMS, and I'd just as soon keep Cakewalk alive, though it won't play .sf2 without a Soundblaster card.

I haven't spent much time in it, more looking at single apps, but the most promising Studio I've booted is Ubuntu (4?).

What pray tell makes a kernel realtime?

I'm not a kernel guy, but I believe it has to do with threading and irq protocol.

I used Cakewalk back in the day, but found it had more and more limitations as time progressed.

Latency is always annoying, and it wasn't any less annoying on my HP-i5 8gRam Windows 10 machine running Studio One. I don't generally use pc's/laptops for real-time synth monitoring because of that lag. I used an Ubuntu Studio back in 2010 I believe, and found it to be more or less useless. It's probably better now, but Ubuntu proper is too much overhead, too much like windows, etc. Jackalpup is a lean, mean, pitbull. Midi-editing, btw, is best achieved in a piano roll, from my experience.

A linux studio like Jackalpup will solve a whole set of problems for a musician. First there's flexibility. Jack allows every application to be used more or less like a plugin. If one application works well for audio-editing or capturing, the ins-and outs can be routed in Jack to another application. Carla is a plugin rack, and has Jack routing, so the ins and outs from a DAW like Ardor can be routed to it in any configuration. I build lots of leadsheets and scores in Musescore. So I can do the usual and export a midi-file from Musescore, or I can simply hook up my favorite sound font to it, because it uses Q-synth, and play the output into any capturing apllication, like deadbeef or audicity (of which I'm not a huge fan), and the audio can be routed through Carla to any plugin or mixing tool. Each task has it's own considerations, and Jack allows a musician to use the strengths of an application without being hampered by it's limitations. Of course all software and tools have a learning curve.

Second is dependability. One hardware failure on a primary windows/mac studio, and the musician is screwed. It's like starting from scratch. Add that to the fact all the BigBox applications require updates and registrations, and at somepoint they will update your version to relative obsolescence. In a Linux studio, if the apps and hardware play nice, and the configuration works. It will basically work forever.

Thirdly, portability and continuity. I've been using puppy for about 10 or 12 years, and I have in the last couple years figured out how to effectively manage multiple systems with consistency. So at the moment I have 5 laptops all with the exact same system and directory structure on the home drive. Also I have boots of Fossapup and Jackalpup on a 3TB USB hard drive, meaning I have the exact same system and data (sync'd with rsync) everywhere. If All of my machines failed or were destroyed, all I need is a decent machine that can boot from USB and I'm back in business, haven't lost a thing. This one factor motivated me more than anything to ditch Windows (though I have beefs with big-tech also!)

Fourth, puppy is fun!

[r96chase]

I can safely say that FL Studio 20.6 runs pretty good with Wine. Albeit with small hiccups, of course.