What if Puppy no longer worked?

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Re: What if Puppy no longer worked?

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bigpup wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:09 am

Choosing an OS

Hi bigpup. Not bad, though conditionally :thumbup: But you can draw a couple of arrows for completeness of the algorithm - those who are not afraid can also have a rich daddy :)

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Re: What if Puppy no longer worked?

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@bigpup
You surprised me putting Puppy next to Gentoo and Arch, but you are probably right.

Nice decision tree, asking the important questions indeed.

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Re: What if Puppy no longer worked?

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BologneChe wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 8:18 pm

Hi!
I am already using;

- Solus 4.2
- macOS
- Easyos Dunfell64

Ive forgotten about Solus, yes its very good alternative for modern computers.

My freshest experience is SparkyLinux - very very nice, something for everyone, light fast and durable. Im very suprissed APTus - something like synaptic package manager, but with better vizualisation of propposed packages, ill show you all :

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at last distro with smooth desktop chooser app.

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Re: What if Puppy no longer worked?

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bigpup wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:09 am

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Not bad, mate. I like it! :thumbup: :D

Mike. ;)

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Re: What if Puppy no longer worked?

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I'm slowly moving on from Puppy in terms of x86_64 architecture. Right now, I just installed Linux Mint on to my ThinkPad recently and it works pretty good so far.

To this day, I still want to run Puppy on RPi 4, but I'm still stuck with my RPi 3B+ as a Puppy desktop for now. Anyway, I hope you guys can make good on your future endeavors and stuff. :thumbup2:

I am a crash-course Linux novice. :lol:

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Mint offers privacy Ubuntu doesn't? Debian offers a life over Puppy?

I vote for the humorless version of the chart.

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What if Puppy no longer worked?

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I just tried Bodhi 6 - nicely presented, fairly intuitive until I wanted to install something. Maybe I would get the hang of that eventually.

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Re: What if Puppy no longer worked?

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What if Puppy no longer worked?

Do you really think this person will let that happen?
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The things you do not tell us, are usually the clue to fixing the problem.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be older.
This is not what I expected :o

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Re: What if Puppy no longer worked?

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TomaszQ wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 8:48 am
BologneChe wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 8:18 pm

Hi!
I am already using;

- Solus 4.2
- macOS
- Easyos Dunfell64

Ive forgotten about Solus, yes its very good alternative for modern computers.

My freshest experience is SparkyLinux - very very nice, something for everyone, light fast and durable. Im very suprissed APTus - something like synaptic package manager, but with better vizualisation of propposed packages, ill show you all :
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/T3CsLwsc/gsc ... .png[/img]

at last distro with smooth desktop chooser app.

Slightly off topic, but Sparky Linux has a Debian Dogified version, so you can have save on exit, sfs files, remastering, and lots of other Puppy style goodies.

http://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2572

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Re: What if Puppy no longer worked?

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Further to my 'what will I do to compute as my brainpower fades' quest, @BarryK - had an interesting musing on his blog - Chromebooks (https://bkhome.org/news/202107/is-chrom ... to-go.html), so I investigated.
Much cheaper than Macs, & can now (since last year or so) run many Debian apps (via flatpaks), & are no longer just online machines. For me, Libreoffice, Gimp, Thunderbird, Anydesk, Audacity & Brother printers can all be run as well as Chrome.
Auto-updates & free Avira antivirus complete the option. Food for thought.

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I got a new HP Chromebook 14a (for $A 290). Has Celeron n4020, 4Gb ram, 64Gb emmc. I added a 32Gb SDHC card. I wanted to see if it is a viable alternative & if the Crostini Linux Subsystem (Debian Buster) was OK. After a few hours testing, I'm fairly impressed.
From the Play Store - Anydesk, Zoom, Kmplayer, Kayo & Bible easily loaded. Via Linux window, got mtpaint via apt (Libreoffice is also available) & sideloaded Thunderbird and Softoffice 2021 (I bought it cheap when Photoshop was also packaged). Sound & Video OK. Only downsides so far - mail folders in thunderbird needed 777 permissions (took a while to figure that out, as I wanted to load my previous puppy mail backup) & needed xpdf, vlc & falkon to load attachments, middle-click doesn't paste selection; no delete key (use alt-bkspc), printing via Chrome OS is fine (Brother HLL2395DW), but via Linux, must print to pdf then print that under ChromeOS (not hard). Scanning is single page via Settings/Devices/Advanced menu. Battery life seems excellent. I 'unsynced' so Google Docs & Google Drive won't bug me. Not sure if antivirus needed but several free options, including Bitdefender.

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Kinda matches a recommendation for desktop from Linus, few years back when asked "which distro he prefers for desktop?"

Enjoy the combinations that the Chromebook offers in both the primary and the virtual benefits it brings.

P.S. I think, printing from the Linux can work directly. Must look into my Chromebook's handbook.

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Chromebook if Puppy no longer worked?

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@Clarity - Under the linux window, I found first thing to run is: sudo apt update . Then more packages are available (stable renamed to old-stable so after update, repository is found.) This allowed me to install Evince instead of much older xpdf, and install printer-driver-brlaser & cups , after which sudo cupsd made printer available to linux. My knowledge & satisfaction improving daily. Enjoying Falkon browser too. Seems system doesn't like writing to ext usb partitions (read is ok) - will look into that, but no big deal.

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Chromebook verdict

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Have now been running a Chromebook (HP 14a) for 10 days & went nearly a week without starting up Puppy. Lots of Android apps are available,
and the Debian Buster linux subsystem (kernel 5.4.131) is quite good. In it, software is loaded via apt & I've loaded & unloaded several packages,
finally settling on thunderbird, mpv, evince, mousepad, mtpaint, libreoffice, cups, print-driver-brlaser, dillo (to set up printing) and poppler-utils
(contains pdfunite to bundle single pdfs).
I reset it on monday & re-installed those packages. Command line skills are handy for installing & tweaks - needed to set /etc/papersize to a4,
change locale & set passwords. Had to manually copy in my thunderbird folders & chown -R (username:username) my Mail subfolder.
Major quirks are that 'delete' is done by alt+bkspc, and if minimum font size in Chrome is more than 13, linux terminal cursor is increasingly offset.
Also doesn't write to ext partitions so I use ntfs. Only 64Gb storage means micro SD useful. Updating is fairly easy.
I could seriously just use this for all my PC needs. Am pondering that.

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Re: What if Puppy no longer worked?

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I have a much older version of the HP Chromebook 14
I totally converted it to a Puppy Linux only computer.
Fossapup64 9.5 is the latest version I am using, and use it the most.
But I have about 8 other Puppy versions on it. They all work.
How you do it depends on the exact Chromebook and what the firmware has for boot options.
All explained in this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=156&t=431

The things you do not tell us, are usually the clue to fixing the problem.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be older.
This is not what I expected :o

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