Restarted the testing. This time, I booted the ISO file via Ventoy taking the Wayland option changing pfix=ram,fsck while adding the PSAVE parm as before. My intent is to boot to create a Wayland session completely separate from the prior X11 session tests for your 2025 version. Upon desktop, same steps as before starting with Update Manager updating packages.
After update, I tried to install btop and tldr via the package manager; but not available.
I opened QuickSetup to tailor use:
New, Keyboard layout is grayed-out
I get a Puppy Input Wizard notification message "This settings is of X11 session only" when completing QuickSetup
And the time setting problems persist
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Restarted the testing. This time, I booted the ISO file via Ventoy taking the Wayland option changing pfix=ram,fsck while adding the PSAVE parm as before. My intent is to boot to create a Wayland session completely separate from the prior X11 session tests for your 2025 version. Upon desktop, same steps as before starting with Update Manager updating packages.
After update, I tried to install btop and tldr via the package manager; but not available.
I opened QuickSetup to tailor use:
New, Keyboard layout is grayed-out
I get a Puppy Input Wizard notification message "This settings is of X11 session only" when completing QuickSetup
And the time setting problems persist
Screenshot_2025-02-24_12-46-16.jpg
Keyboard layout on Wayland is actually depends on the wayland compositor. Just go to xfce desktop settings. and select keyboard settings. And it will redirected to labwc settings gui
Changes:
* Fixes on initrd, Improvements for odd numbered pupmodes (still disabled by default, required to enable)
* linux kernel 6.13.5-lxpup64
* Added brlaser and bcachefs-tools
* Disk Image Creator now supports BTRFS and bcachefs
Testing launching vRC3 via Ventoy. These can be verified with your own USB that you've tested from before.
Few issues
Selecting GRUB2 option from Ventoy when launching the ISO, there are several error messages, too fast to capture, that flash quickly before the QP64 boot-menu is displayed. To test, at the QP64 boot-menu each case of booting with and without PSAVE is shown below.
Attempts with PSAVE parm
When 1st stanza is selected and the PSAVE= parm is added for Persistence, the boot will display the Puppy grub image, but will not progress the boot to a prompt or to a desktop. It just hangs at the image.
The same thing occurs when attempting to boot using the Wayland stanza with a PSAVE parm.
Attempts without the PSAVE parm - A different behavior
Allowing the boot-menu to timeout at the default stanza the boot starts. After a 60sec wait, the boot will progress and stop with the following information locked on-screen
QuickPup64
Linux 6.13.5-1xpup64 [x86_64 arch]
puppypc22926 login: root (automatic login)
Welcome to Puppy Linux!
/usr/lib/puppy/bin/start-display-server: line 50: /usr/sbin/pm13: No such file or directory
[puppy::root]# ModemManager [10009]: <msg> ModemManager (version 1.22.0) starting in system bus...
acpid: starting up with netlink and the input layer
acpid: 1 rule loaded
acpid: waiting for events: event logging is off
crond[10167]: /usr/sbin/crond 4.5 dillon's cron daemon, started with loglevel notice
haveged: haveged starting up
haveged: haveged: ver: 1.9.19; arch: x86; vend: GenuineIntel; build: (gcc 14.2.0 ITV); collect: 128K
haveged: haveged: cpu: (L4 VC); data: 32K (L2 L4 V); inst: 32K (L2 L4 V); idx: 24/40; sz: 32156/54021
haveged: haveged: tot tests(BAB): A:1/1 B:1/1 continuous tests(B): last entropy estimate 7.99764
haveged: haveged: fills: 0, generated: 0
ModemManager [10009]: <msg> [base-manager] couldn't check support for device'/sys/devices/pci0000:00/00000:00:1c.5/0000:06:00.0': not supported by any plugin
There is nothing more...no prompt...nothing to indicate some user actions is needed. Using Cntrl-Alt-Delete starts a Shutdown asking if I want to save???
Taking the Wayland stanza the same behavior occurs. This time at the last message I waited, then hit the Enter-key. I got a prompt. At the prompt, I entered "xwin" and the desktop started. But as is the case for all WoofCEs launched from ventoy, session saving is impossible without a beginning PSAVE parm.
Attachments
Desktop via X11 without PSAVE.jpg (30.5 KiB) Viewed 1397 times
Desktop via Wayland without PSAVE.jpg (47 KiB) Viewed 1397 times
Changes:
* package management is now fully aligned to the slackware current upstream repo. Slackel repo will now handle the package dependency instead
* Improved PPM and PKG2. Now supports slackware deps files (located /var/packages/repo/slack-deps) and automatically updates the package repo when needed.
* linux kernel 6.13.7-lxpup64
* updated linux firmware drivers
* reco replaced audio-recorder as sound recording app
* more bugfixes
Launched to desktop on bare-metal via Ventoy and also SG2D without issues. This was done taking the default QP64 boot-menu stanza. Using that stanza, SG2D using SAVESPEC locates all prior QP64 sessions offering the option to select or 'none' to boot. I chose none for a pristine boot of this version RC4.
Problems, thus far
My arrow keys and other keys between the keyboard letters and numbers-keys are NOT behaving as they normally would. Not sure how to resolve. I did review the desktop menu>Desktop>Keyboard Shortcuts, but nothing stands out on how to activate normal operations of those keys. The keyboard is set in FirstRun as US English.
USing Firstrun, I choose the UTC clock option, but it is NOT respected. When Firstrun is reopened, the UTC option is unchecked.
My PrtScrn key does not work. This may be related to the other keyboard behavior reported.
On pristine use, opening the Drawing graphic utility offers a guide, but when checked, no manual/user-guide is presented.
Next will be tests booting QP64 using its Wayland boot menu stanza. Wayland was not present in this report's findings.
Attachments
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QuickPup64
Linux 6.13.7-1xpup64 [x86_64 arch]
puppурс17895 login: root (automatic login)
Welcome to Puppy Linux!
/usr/lib/puppy/bin/start-display-server: line 50: /usr/sbin/pm13: No such file or directory
[puppy: :root]# ModemManager [10581]: <msg> ModemManager (version 1.22.0) starting in system bus...
acpid: starting up with netlink and the input layer
acpid: 1 rule loaded
acpid: waiting for events: event logging is off
crond[10728]: /usr/sbin/crond 4.5 dillon's cron daemon, started with loglevel notice
haveged: haveged starting up
haveged: haveged: ver: 1.9.19; arch: x86; vend: GenuineIntel; build: (gcc 14.2.0 ITU); collect: 128K
haveged: haveged: cpu: (L4 UC); data: 32K (L2 L4 V); inst: 32K (L2 L4 V); idx: 24/40; sz: 32156/54021
haveged: haveged: tot tests (BAB): A:1/1 B:1/1 continuous tests(B): last entropy estimate 7.99838
haveged: haveged: fills: 0, generated: 0
ModemManager [10581]: <msg> [base-manager] couldn't check support for device '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.5/0000:06.00.0': not supported by any plugin
^C
[puppy:root]# echo "Interrupted after waiting 5 minutes for ModemManger result/completion that never happened"
Interrupted after waiting 5 minutes for ModemManger result/completion that never happened
[puppy:root]# startx # required to get a desktop
. Question
What would you have done, at this point, for this attempted boot of the Wayland boot-menu option?
@mistfire as you have noticed from the above issue I report, I rebooted in SG2D taking the Wayland option. It is KNOWN that if a SAVESPEC is present the booting WoofCE will respect its contents for session inclusion as well as to know where to find-save the session.
Selecting the Wayland boot option the boot fails allowing a debugsave to create useful information to the developer. Here it is ...
@mistfire as you have noticed from the above issue I report, I rebooted in SG2D taking the Wayland option. It is KNOWN that if a SAVESPEC is present the booting WoofCE will respect its contents for session inclusion as well as to know where to find-save the session.
Selecting the Wayland boot option the boot fails allowing a debugsave to create useful information to the developer. Here it is ...pupdebug-0324250135.tar.gz
I noticed to the debug file that there is /dev/sr0 detected by probepart. Did you try to use find_iso boot parameter to locate the iso file?
Did you see the kernel in the "Command line" of the log files; BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinux pfix=fsck ... find_iso=/BOOTISOS/quickpup64_25.01-rc4.iso ...
Or is it missing in the logs I sent?
Can I send you a 2GB USB "IMG" file that you can use for your tests where you can mimic the problems which surface in booting. Its merely Ventoy USB with an SG2D ISO and a QP64 ISO. Its a replica of what I use it to test booting everything for last 6 years. I launch directly from Ventoy or I boot SG2D and launch from there ... same USB for all ISO file boot testing and reporting. This would give you ability to see what I see in booting tests, from time to time. If this would be helpful, PM me.
Can I send you a 2GB USB "IMG" file that you can use for your tests where you can mimic the problems which surface in booting. Its merely Ventoy USB with an SG2D ISO and a QP64 ISO. Its a replica of what I use it to test booting everything for last 6 years. I launch directly from Ventoy or I boot SG2D and launch from there ... same USB for all ISO file boot testing and reporting. This would give you ability to see what I see in booting tests, from time to time. If this would be helpful, PM me.