Sound dysfunctional (S15Pup32)

[Taylor]

I recently installed Puppy 32-bit. Some things do work (FireFox, TotalCommander via Wine, ...). But a major problem is sound. No sound in Firefox, and no sound in MPLAYER unless I use -ao sdl. Oddly sound input seems to work (via Wine). What's the problem and how to fix it? S15Pup32 built from 32-bit Slackware-15.0 components installed on HD.

[Taylor]

I succeeded to switch the default card from "HDMI" to "Intel PCH HDA" making the test sound in ALSA wizard work. But still no sound in Firefox.

[bigpup]

Are you using the Firefox that is provided here for S15Pup32?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/ ... /browsers/

The firefox.sfs downloaded and loaded into the file system?

If no.

This is the Firefox you need to be using.

[ozsouth]

@Taylor - as this puppy uses alsa & firefox prefers pulseaudio, you need to run apulse emulator (in a terminal) to get sound in firefox:

apulse firefox

You can edit /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser to automate this.

[Taylor]

Thanks.

> Are you using the Firefox that is provided here for S15Pup32?
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/ ... /browsers

No. I use the one found by the package manager: mozilla-firefox-115.13.0esr-i686-1_slack15.0.txz 62'748'736

Anyway, in the meantime I found out that "pulseaudio" is the big villain.
If I uninstall "pulseaudio" then that FireFox works, but Wine doesn't.

> as this puppy uses alsa & firefox prefers pulseaudio, you need to run
> apulse emulator (in a terminal) to get sound in firefox:
> apulse firefox
> You can edit /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser to automate this.

Should I now use "pulseaudio" or not? I want to have both FireFox and Wine
working, with both sound output and input.

Is there an alternative version of Wine available?

I'll try the suggestions provided above.

[rockedge]

@Taylor use apulse firefox to start the browser with sound.

It's a little bit of a workaround but works solidly and has the advantage that the system appears to be running pulseaudio for everything that looks for it plus the ALSA - pulseaudio adapter apulse squeezes the that bit of audio that links it all together.

I do have a system that is similar and WINE will produce sound when started with apulse wine. Might work .

[Taylor]

@rockedge

Thanks. I tested the tips listed above:
* the other Firefox https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/ ... s/download works but still no sound, even if launched indirectly via "apulse"
* Wine does have sound (input and output) out of the box, but makes eveything else needing sound fail or crash

Is there a way to simply and termporarily disable the "pulseaudio" installed together with Wine, rather than painfully uninstalling and reinstalling it?

[Taylor]

Thanks. I tested the tips listed above:

* the other Firefox https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/ ... s/download works but still no sound, even if launched indirectly via "apulse" BTW, I can see that the FireFox was updated yesterday

* Wine does have sound (input and output) out of the box, but makes eveything else needing sound fail or crash

Is there a way to simply and termporarily disable the "pulseaudio" installed together with Wine, rather than painfully uninstalling and reinstalling it whenever I have to switch from FireFox to Wine or vice-versa?

[bigpup]

Usually using Wine requires no installing Pulseaudio.

but you do need to configure Wine to use the correct sound device.

See this post:
viewtopic.php?p=86073#p86073

[mikewalsh]

@Taylor :-

Y'know, call me "thick" if ya like, but......why is WINE even being used here in the first place? I've read through the thread, but I'm still none the wiser.

TIP:- Do NOT install browsers from the PPM. This is an absolute no-no. It's the way things are done in every other distro, I know, but it's not the best way of doing things in Puppy. Puppy's repos are not Puppy-specific, y'see; rather, they're the repos of whatever distro your Puppy was "woofed" from. And Puppy does enough things just that wee bit differently that the user needs to mess around - often quite a lot! - to simply get things working at all. Far better to use packages built FOR Puppy....

For browsers, look in Advanced Topics -> Browsers & Internet. You'll find we have an entire range of 'portable' browsers, specifically constructed & packaged to work with Puppy. If ya want Firefox, sound works OOTB, since the apulse emulator stuff is all built-in.

No reason you can't USE Wine, if you want to. But you shouldn't NEED to use it, simply to get basic stuff working. The Windoze way is not the Linux way.......and once you understand the Linux way, it's often simpler than Windoze will ever be. Audio CAN be a pig, though; even I'll admit that.

Don't be a "stranger". And don't be afraid to ask questions. There is no such thing as a dumb question, however daft it may seem to you. We were all noobs once, so we've ALL been there, trust me..!

Mike.