Pikaxhu wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:51 pm
Ok
Jasper wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:08 am
Yes @Pikaxhu
Please remove files that you have harvested from this forum.
I do not give you permission nor accept responsibililitity for files you distribute.
@ rockedge,
Puppys in all their variations --including Puppy-Like operating systems such as debian/ubuntu dogs and Kennel-Linuxes-- are niche operating systems. Taken together it is unlikely that they are run on more than 1% of computers. But those people who do run them, love them and understand that this Forum is essential to their continued success and availability. No one has reason to expect that any particular 'Puppy' will provide a fully functional operating system OOTB for all possible computers, or that an application published for that, or many, 'Puppys' is anything beyond the creator's best effort to be helpful. Woof-built Puppys are not identical to their binary-compatible. Almost all Puppy Users are dependent upon the generousity and good-will of those who publish such Puppys and the applications for them. This Forum serves as the vehicle to manifest that generousity and good-will.
If you want to destroy an institution sow distrust or work to establish its reputation as unreliable. A Puppy-User who searches for a type of application only to find after wading thru threads discussing such application or acceptible alternatives that offering are no longer available and the only thing accomplished was the wasting of time has reason to doubt the reliability of the Forum which houses such discussions. No one should be permitted to use this Forum merely to attract attention to him-or-herself. Applications published here, or linked elsewhere from a post here should serve the common good; which includes the right of others to copy, distribute, and modify.
If registration --which is a pre-requisite to posting on this Forum-- does not already provide the following it should be amended and members required to re-register:
All Operating Systems and applications for any of them published on this Forum are to be considered as being donations to the Public Domain regardless of any reservations elsewhere expressed. Any post providing a download link to an operating system or application for any of them which claims that such operating system or application is the original work of the poster are to be considered as donations to the Public Domain regardless of any reservations elsewhere expressed. Any post providing a download link to an operating system or application for any of them shall constitute a waiver of any proprietary rights to that operating sytem or application otherwise held by that poster regardless of any reservations elsewhere expressed.
@jasper. In the absence of malicious intent adversely affecting a substantial class of those injured by it, as a practical matter, there is no liability for publishing applications Liability presumes an ability to collect damages. Fifty years ago I represented a woman in a dog-bite case. Her damages amounted to $900 in medical expenses. My fee --controlled by law-- was limited to 1/3 of the recovered damages. Considering the amount of time I spent preparing the case, travelling to and from the Court, waiting to be heard, and actually trying the case I doubt that I broke even. 50 years ago I just starting my practice and was stupid.
Today, I doubt --even with inflation-- she could find an attorney to represent her.
How many Puppys do you think are used in a commercial setting? An application which doesn't work, even under the operating system it was created for, results in nothing more than the potential user's waste of leisure time. How much can that be worth?
Hence my qualification 'in the absence of malicious intent adversely affecting a substantial class of those injured by it". An application which destroys the proper functioning of a widely used operating system or the data preserved on such systems might piss off a sufficient number of people to make feasible a class action law suit and an award of punitive damages.
But I doubt that even that would be possible if you included this one-line text file within your creations: This application is published 'AS-IS' without any guraranty of any kind including but not limited to fitness for use, merchantibility, or safety.
@Pikaxhu, We all do dumb things once in awhile. For example, my spending two hours to write this post. It doesn't help the Forum to point out when someone else has been dumb. What's jasper going to do? Sue you? See above.
There's a legal fiction: "Everyone is presumed to know the Law". It exists to exclude such defenses as "I didn't know murder and mayhem weren't permissible". The fact is nobody actually knows what their obligations and liabilities are under alls Laws, and the legal requirement in almost all situations --except for breach of contract-- that proof of an intentional act is required before guilt or liability can be found. [In breach of contract cases, the rule is that each party is obligated to perform that which is specified in the contract as interpreted by the 'theoretical reasoanable man']. Just how far off base someone's view of what the Law is may be illustrated by something I observed while attending a Town Hall Meeting. Nearing its conclusion the Mayor asked "Is there any new business" which offers the Public the opportunity to air grievences. A gentleman stood up and complained that the camera which had recently been afixed to a traffic light violated his 'Right to Privacy'. I assume he believed that the special privilege afforded to Lady Godiva was a universal Constitutional Right. ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)