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BarryK wrote:

...another 4 years, i'll be pushing close to 80. If still alive, likely to be doing some things on the bucket list.

Ubuntu Touch mobile operating system set up UBports Foundation
https://ubports.com/foundation/ubports-foundation
Zig has set itself up as a Foundation and receives donations.

zig wiki wrote:

Zig development is funded by the Zig Software Foundation (ZSF), a non-profit corporation with Andrew Kelley as president, which accepts donations and hires multiple full-time employees.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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Stogie wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:22 pm

Barry, consider a succession plan for the EasyOS project. I'm sure there are people who would be eager to take over if you want to, or ever have to, stop working on the project either partially or totally, for whatever reason(s).

It would suck for the many happy and daily EasyOS users if the project just ended! Also it's too GOOD to end! There's nothing else like it out there.

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I read a post in this forum talking about AI, ( viewtopic.php?p=130418&hilit=AI+LIVES#p130418 )so let's ask ChatGPT...

What could happen to EasyOS if Barry Kauler stopped developing it and handed it over to others, as happened with Puppy Linux?

"If Barry Kauler were to stop developing **EasyOS** and handed it over to other developers, a scenario similar to what happened with **Puppy Linux** could occur. Here are some potential outcomes and their implications:

### 1. **Fragmentation of the Project**
- **Risk**: When a project changes hands, it could fragment into multiple versions (or "forks"), especially without clear leadership or consensus on its direction. This happened with Puppy Linux, leading to several derivatives (Fossapup, Slacko, BionicPup, etc.).
- **Positive**: Fragmentation could lead to innovation and adaptations for specific needs.
- **Negative**: It might result in a loss of identity or confusion among users.

### 2. **Loss of Original Focus**
- Barry Kauler has a very specific vision for EasyOS (experimenting with containers, extreme efficiency, ease of use). If he left the project, new leaders might shift that philosophy.
- This could make EasyOS lose some of its unique features or take it in a different direction than originally planned.

### 3. **Growth Through a Broader Community**
- If development transitioned to a more open community, EasyOS could benefit from a steady flow of new ideas, bug fixes, and support.
- However, coordinating a diverse community can be challenging, potentially leading to a loss of cohesion.

### 4. **Stagnation or Disappearance**
- Without a committed community or team to continue its development, EasyOS could stagnate or even disappear, relegated to a small niche of users and developers.

### 5. **Possible Consequences for Current Users**
- **Compatibility**: Users might face compatibility issues if new developers make fundamental changes to the system.
- **Support**: The quality and frequency of updates could vary, impacting the user experience.
- **Repositories**: Access to packages and integration with other distribution repositories could become more complicated without Barry’s oversight.

### Success Story Example: Puppy Linux
Although Puppy Linux experienced fragmentation after Barry stepped away, it remains a vibrant project with many useful derivatives. This demonstrates that a passionate community can keep a project alive and evolving.

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To mitigate risks, it would be ideal for Barry to plan a structured transition, leaving documentation, development guidelines, and clear leadership to ensure **EasyOS** continues.

Every day, I’m mair convinced that aw these projects hinge on Barry Kauler. And I’ll double doon on that, lookin' at whit’s happened tae Puppy Linux. Whit used tae be a crackin' distro, workin' like a charm wi’ Barry at the helm, has turned intae somethin' totally on the fringes. It disnae draw folk in anymore, an’ the few that dae show up get scunnered by a handful o' egotistical personalities.

What do you think? Would you prefer EasyOS to become more community-driven, or should it retain its original vision?
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"Live and learn."

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.3

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bugnaw333 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:38 am

@BarryK
That is correct. Our medium language of instruction here in both private and public schools is English from pre-school up to college. Nowadays, most of our 4-yr old kids can fluently speak using the English language because of the internet and celfones. :D

Certainly I find that the educated and younger locals speak a fair amount of English, but a lot of the ones I know, understand somewhat but not great at speaking it. I'm talking about the 30 and 40 year olds who are general workers such as in construction or trike drivers. Restaurant workers usually pretty good, but depends what the conversation is about (good about food and tourism matters). Many even younger ones I know have had little to no access to computers at their colleges. They all glued to smartphones though - more than I've ever seen elsewhere.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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@wiak , that's a common problem all around the world, haha....

but a lot of the ones I know, understand somewhat but not great at speaking

It's a pedagogy principle, Students are more competent at receptive skills that productive ones, so they understand a lot of English lang, but they can´t produce it.

4 skills L-S-R-W (Listening-speaking-reading-writing) and I verify every single day that they can Listen-Read, but they have problems with Speaking And Writing.

That's "Education"....

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.3

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wiak wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:20 am

Many even younger ones I know have had little to no access to computers at their colleges. They all glued to smartphones though - more than I've ever seen elsewhere.

Our educational system before was 6 yrs. in elementary and 4 yrs. in high school. Last 2012, the govt. changed it to 7 years(adding 1 year kindergarten) and 6 years (adding 2 years senior high).

Regarding access to computers, only last 2010 poor kids started playing online gaming like "counter-strike" and DOTA in the internet cafes for less than a 1$/hr. Now, its only 5 peso/hr.
During COVID-19, e-learning was introduced to continue the schooling using internet cafes nearby.

If you take a ride in the PUVs today, you can find all passengers hooked-up to their smartphones. :shock:

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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pp4mnklinux wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:15 am

let's ask ChatGPT....

Damn. ChatGPT totally NAILED IT. That respose is completely accurate in all respects, to the best of my knowledge. Very impressive.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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This is Pi Personal AI response: ;)

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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The only conclusion is that Barry is irreplaceable. Maybe the only solution is for him to train an AI apprentice to follow in his footsteps? Hopefully Barry will be with us for a long time to come. I appreciate his wonderful EasyOs every day!

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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Dear Barry,
I updated to v 6.4.4 and I confirm that there was no need of doing anything. KDE Dolphin still workiing perfectly (and also with extraordinary speed)! This basically means something great: in my opinion, EasyOS Daedalus is now the best Linux distribution in existence, which can also be considered as the best open source OS in existence, since it is the lightest and easyest Linux distribution which also offers a good integration of the KDE apps (without even the need of using the KDE window manager). By now everyone will be able to use Dolphin (which is basically the best file manager on the planet), and Okular (which is basically the best PDF program for Linux) without the need of installing any heavy or difficult to use Linux distribution. No need of K-Ubuntu, MX-Linux or Debian: just install EasyOS Daedalus, open PKGget, install Dolphin and Okular and you are ready to go! And it even runs wonderfully on USB sticks!

There are also other amazing details: for example now the system remembers the last setting for the screen brightness, eliminating the need of clicking on the applet on the system tray everytime the system boots. The new version is really amazing! Unmatched!! This is more or less exactly what I've been always dreaming about! And, in my opinion, something which will last for ever (or at least for a long time).

I didn't test everything thoroughly jet, but I can already confirm that also on EasyOS Scarthgap the system update does not compromise the working of KDE Dolphin in any way. And also on Scarthgap the brightness applet works now automatically!

I think that the time has come to write new reviews for EasyOS on DistroWatch. And I think that we are going to gain many positions on the ranking (we have already gained one). To be honest at this point I don't see any reason why we shouldn't be at the first position by now. And I also think that this could really become a very popular OS in general, not just considering the Linux branch.

Thank you!!

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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The correct word is revolutionary. This release of Easy Daedalus is revolutionary!
Unfortunately, there's still no trace of it on DistroWatch. I don't know if someone is entitled to update the data on DistroWatch or if these data is actually only maintained by the owner(s) of the website, but at the moment I think that it wouldn't make sense to add a review for a version which does not even appear on the website at all jet.

If EasyOS has had an average rating of 8.9 out of 10 till now, if we add to the equation the vastity of the new repository, the ease with which it is possible to install the KDE apps and more importantly the very nice way they have been integrated, I'm quite confident that we are going to get easily a 10 out of 10.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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Federico wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:58 pm

Unfortunately, there's still no trace of it on DistroWatch. I don't know if someone is entitled to update the data on DistroWatch or if these data is actually only maintained by the owner(s) of the website, but at the moment I think that it wouldn't make sense to add a review for a version which does not even appear on the website at all jet.

Distrowatch has a policy of at least a 3-month gap between announcing new versions of a distribution.

6.0 was announced in June, so a new version can be announced.

I have to email them to let them know. They normally won't do it automatically.

Right now I'm working on improving Daedalus running in a container in Scarthgap.
Maybe in a couple of weeks I will release 6.5 and contact distrowatch.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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BarryK wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:24 am

Distrowatch has a policy of at least a 3-month gap between announcing new versions of a distribution.

6.0 was announced in June, so a new version can be announced.

I have to email them to let them know. They normally won't do it automatically.

Right now I'm working on improving Daedalus running in a container in Scarthgap.
Maybe in a couple of weeks I will release 6.5 and contact distrowatch.

Dear. Barry, it is so good that it needs to be advertised somehow I think.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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I run Daedalus 6.4.4 from a USB stick. I prefer it over the Scarthgap, because of the great selection of Devuan program packages.
I have used the package Xpad for ages, since it was first available in a Puppy. It is a yellow pad for quick notes. It can be used from the menu, but is commonly set to be launched from the tray. The version found in the Devuan repo has again crashed my EasyOS. I can unfortunately not describe what goes wrong, but it does something with the save function. Despite saving a session, with a working Xpad launched from the tray, it does not appear in the tray after rebooting. The Easy Daedalus 6.4.4 finally collapsed, and when trying to boot an earlier session, it found none, and it instead booted to the prestine session. All my downloaded programs and settings were gone, but that is not a big problem. I have had some similar situations with Xpad before, with both EasyPup and EasyOS, so this is a general warning to take care, and do a backup first, if you plan to use Xpad.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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tallboy wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:16 pm

I run Daedalus 6.4.4 from a USB stick. I prefer it over the Scarthgap, because of the great selection of Devuan program packages.
I have used the package Xpad for ages, since it was first available in a Puppy. It is a yellow pad for quick notes. It can be used from the menu, but is commonly set to be launched from the tray. The version found in the Devuan repo has again crashed my EasyOS. I can unfortunately not describe what goes wrong, but it does something with the save function. Despite saving a session, with a working Xpad launched from the tray, it does not appear in the tray after rebooting. The Easy Daedalus 6.4.4 finally collapsed, and when trying to boot an earlier session, it found none, and it instead booted to the prestine session. All my downloaded programs and settings were gone, but that is not a big problem. I have had some similar situations with Xpad before, with both EasyPup and EasyOS, so this is a general warning to take care, and do a backup first, if you plan to use Xpad.

tallboy

Thanks for the warning; stay away from Xpad!

I could blacklist it.
I have. Added "xpad" to PKG_NAME_IGNORE variable in /root/.packages/PKGS_MANAGEMENT file.

So, we need an alternative...

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.4

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I can see that in BookwormPup, the Xpad is in the menu.

BTW; gFTP does not work:

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.5

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Version 6.5 has arrived:

"EasyOS Daedalus-series version 6.5 released"
https://bkhome.org/news/202412/easyos-d ... eased.html

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