Windows 11 and "old" hardware

[BologneChe]

Redmond really wants PC users to purchase new hardware to install Windows 11 on...
https://www.techspot.com/news/104341-mi ... ndows.html

[geo_c]

Just erased Windows from another machine, and turned off secure boot and installed a bunch of forum OS's on it today.

No better feeling than clicking the reformat partition table operation on the internal hard drive of a machine with 5 windows partitions on it, and seeing nothing but gray emptiness on the drive.

The trick is getting windows to shut down completely so it will let you get to the bios. Once that puppy boots off USB you know you're halfway there.

[wiak]

I suppose preference is often really more about what you are used to. Once I used Puppy at home so much it annoyed me when on a different Linux. Currently I'm most at home on xfce linux mint albeit with every KL utility installed and available. I really plan to move onto tiling manager, but been low priority wish.

MS Windows 11 remains on main machine wasting tons of storage space, but do have plenty. I keep it 'just incase' but in over ten years that just in case scenario never occurs and I cant imagine now that it ever would.. I suppose reluctance to delete boils down to ms win price being paid part of laptop and wouldnt want effort of reinstalling. Fact is, I hate being logged in to windows and feel out of control and basically lost... The Windows users dont seem to realise how awful and limiting their system is.

[wiak]

We should probably all give up or at least realise that most people will not desert Windows for free open-source Linux for a simple reason. They don't know how and most never will.

Says it all: https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Linux-stil ... ral-public

[wiak]

Unfortunately, we are all relatively dumb. I would think that at least 99.9% of humans are really dumb and have no chance of being able to install any Linux themselves. A few read enough in their browser to become determined enough to try. A few somehow manage, but even alot of those who manage otherwise remain pretty dumb and habitually propagate nonsense that pollutes the knowledge base, which makes everything even more difficult.

Faced with such over-whelming never-ending dumbness, it is not surprising that nutcases continue to fight dumb wars in support of nonsense opposing beliefs whilst expecting everyone to follow their constantly quoted words they ignorantly believe came from some superior all-knowing individual or individuals.

There may or may not be such an individual or individual, but so far I've not heard of them whispering in anyone's ear not to use MS Windows, or google for that matter, or even some special variant of Puppy Linux. Too busy, on all such nutcase sides and flavours, whispering who the bad lot are that need genocide thrust upon them I suppose. And who is to disagree really?; I'm pretty dumb too.

[wiak]

I wonder if my Irish cousins' schools make the kids use Windows or Linux?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c207ypx22ego

I suppose best not to wonder about it; they have their own view of good and enlightenment apparently, and doesn't seem to matter which flavour of nutcase controlling the countries or institutions - it appears to be all about exertion of power, greed, desire, manipulation and control of dumb masses, which, I agree, is most all of us.

Just another aspect, result, and historically well known yet often denied occurrence in such organisations that freely admit our human sin that is happily confessed, expected, and allowed to continue, but with a policy of divine forgiveness as the 'saving grace'. I'd rather just shoot the bastards doing the worst of it rather than annointing them no matter what operating system mechanism they swear by, but each to their own I suppose.

Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone, but it surely depends on the level of sin does it not? Otherwise seems like too easy an excuse to turn thou blind eyes from what the nutcases do. Oops, I shouldn't quote any of the nonsense cliches. I should give Windows a chance, because "what do I know?"; this I admit. Some do say that distro flame wars are reminiscent of religious wars, but I do think distro flame wars are irrelevant really and thus pretty harmless actually (well... some operating systems are best avoided I'd say, but I wouldn't really say that about any Linux distro).

[wiak]

I still believe it would be good for forum members to put more effort into virtual machine forum distro application. Most all of us have ability to do such work.

Reason is also that that would be a mechanism for introducing the less dumb MS Windows users to forum distros.

Best would be someone who knows a bit windows scripting producing a little package that downloads the likes of Virtual Box along with suitable forum distro images ready to run on windows itself.

Advantage also that images could be made very small since only need firmware provided to match the virtual machine needs. In fact it would be nice here if we always also provided slimmed down firmware images that fulfilled Qemu needs. Any user of any other Linux distro could then run a provided script that provided one or a selection of firmware reduced frugal installed forum distros to allow quick boot into Qemu window. As things stand we have endless new users having understandable issues getting our distros to boot from usb. Ventoy is currently a useful mechanism in many such cases but first the new user has the need to install Ventoy barrier to cross and thereafter they face the never-ending problem getting save persistence to work. Even KL distros can fail at that if iso builder makes a slight grub config mistake, tho usually ok.

[rockedge]

Best would be someone who knows a bit windows scripting producing a little package that downloads the likes of Virtual Box along with suitable forum distro images ready to run on windows itself.

Interesting........I like the idea........hmmmmmm.......