What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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Hi all

Are there a list of known issues that are unresolved and need attention?

Yesterday, I did download the ISO and did notice the 'Gato tray' icon missing and also that MPV gave me a bluescreen upon attempting to playback video files.

I tried to install the Devx to recompile this but it failed to load :oops: .

Am, I right in thinking this uses an 'Overlay' kernel?

I did a small cosmetic rebuild to remove Palemoon from the main SFS and added my recent Intel Microcode security update.

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Re: Issues to be resolved?

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Clipit is missing in the 240815 download. That has been resolved and tested in a release version and will be in the next scheduled build.

MPV does give a blue screen for video in that iso. Installing Celluloid, an MPV frontend, from repo using Synaptic fixes that. I also tested VLC installed from repo and that played DVDs ok. libdvdcss needs to be added for many DVDs, link here viewtopic.php?p=129295#p129295.

I don't use gatotray so haven't noticed that.

The stock 6.8.8 kernel is usrmerge overlayfs only. I'm running @ozsouths' 6.10.4 kernel, usrmerge adjusted manually, and that has AUFS on board. I've run it both AUFS and overlayfs using the std kernel parameter in my non-savefile LXDE'd install. Currently using that in AUFS mode, no particular reason.

If I think of more later, I'll post. Typing in bright morning sun :D

Oops, I had posted some of this here: viewtopic.php?p=129291#p129291

My pups: LxPupSc64 and Voidpup64 with LXDE ydrv & synaptics touchpad drivers, both using savefiles. Ydrv based NoblePup64 (JWM & LXDE), Bookworm64 & Fossapup64-small (LXDE/PCManFM). No savefiles, no fdrvs there. :thumbup:

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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@Jasper - Attached is a MPV configuration file that works to get MPV playing audio and video from my test DVD. Remove the false gz and put it in /root/.config/mpv, creating that dir if necessary.

I've just tested it briefly but give it a go.

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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@Marv

Apologies for the late delay ..... last few days of the hols before the schools start back up!!

I did try the config file but it did not resolve my issue sadly.

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I cannot fix this at the moment as I am unable to get online using a WiFi connection.

The fdrv does not contain my Intel drivers and Conman just fails.

I had a same issue with Jammypup64.

OzSouth and Rewin provided me with the drivers and an alternative solution instead of using Conman.

So, presently I do not need the fdrv and just have added the few files required for my WiFi firmware.

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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There appears to be some options missing from this.

There should be 'Bare, Minimal ....' available to choose.

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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......... this is not really an issue but if a new ISO is built from GitHub it could contain the latest update for Python

Actually it might be easier to update it via Synaptic.

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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Updating package versions beyond those in Ubuntu 24.04 might be a bad idea, for 3 reasons. First, Ubuntu 24.04 packages that depend on Python expect the version shipped in 24.04 and updating it can break them. Second, Canonical backports security updates to old package versions (the update is current version plus this or that fix) instead of updating them to the latest versions (that's what the LTS versions are all about) and updating a package to the latest version can introduce new features but also security issues, basically undo the work of Canonical's security team. Third, if you're backporting things like new microcode before Canonical's security team or QA team decided it's a good idea to backport them to 24.04 and issue an update to all users, maybe you're introducing some risk.

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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@dimkr

I do agree with all the points raised by you.

In this instance Python is provided only in the DevX.

I included an updated Microcode as it fixes issues with an Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4120 CPU.

From memory the May 2024 release did not address some issues when I checked with Intel Spectre check script and the August one did, hence the inclusion.

As, I repacked the original ISO I did make changes and declared them; checksums provided.

It is up to members if they wish to try it.

Remember, if you wish to remain secure stick to the STOCK KERNEL.

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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Jasper wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:58 am

@Marv

Apologies for the late delay ..... last few days of the hols before the schools start back up!!

I did try the config file but it did not resolve my issue sadly.

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I cannot fix this at the moment as I am unable to get online using a WiFi connection.

The fdrv does not contain my Intel drivers and Conman just fails.

I had a same issue with Jammypup64.

OzSouth and Rewin provided me with the drivers and an alternative solution instead of using Conman.

So, presently I do not need the fdrv and just have added the few files required for my WiFi firmware.

On the MPV issue:

What version of NP64 are you running? In both V11 and the 'release' testing version on github, the main pup SFS contains /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavutil.so.58 as a symlink to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavutil.so.58.29.100 and my MPV just starts. I'm in the LXDE version but I'm pretty sure I also checked it in the JWM. Shouldn't be any difference wrt that lib at any rate.Terminal output is:

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root@puppypc2096:~$ mpv
Driver 'opengl' has been replaced with 'gpu'!
Warning: option --sub-text-font-size was replaced with --sub-font-size and might be removed in the future.
Warning: option --sub-text-color was replaced with --sub-color and might be removed in the future.
Driver 'opengl' has been replaced with 'gpu'!
mpv 0.35.1 Copyright © 2000-2023 mpv/MPlayer/mplayer2 projects
 built on UNKNOWN
FFmpeg library versions:
   libavutil       58.29.100
   libavcodec      60.31.102
   libavformat     60.16.100
   libswscale      7.5.100
   libavfilter     9.12.100
   libswresample   4.12.100
FFmpeg version: 6.1.1-3ubuntu5

Usage:   mpv [options] [url|path/]filename

Basic options:
 --start=<time>    seek to given (percent, seconds, or hh:mm:ss) position
 --no-audio        do not play sound
 --no-video        do not play video
 --fs              fullscreen playback
 --sub-file=<file> specify subtitle file to use
 --playlist=<file> specify playlist file

 --list-options    list all mpv options
 --h=<string>      print options which contain the given string in their name

root@puppypc2096:~$ 

Using the terminal output I did clean up a couple of lines in the config but it did run and play as I posted it.

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My pups: LxPupSc64 and Voidpup64 with LXDE ydrv & synaptics touchpad drivers, both using savefiles. Ydrv based NoblePup64 (JWM & LXDE), Bookworm64 & Fossapup64-small (LXDE/PCManFM). No savefiles, no fdrvs there. :thumbup:

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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@Marv

Unsure as to which build I am using ..... I grabbed from the GitHub page that Rockedge provided.

15 August 2024 ?

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Also the package mkisofs is not included, as it is required by PCompress to create ISO's.

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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LocalSend does not work correctly. I cannot download photos from my phone, in CE-4 and BookwormPup64, LocalSend works fine. I am using the tar file from here: https://localsend.org/download

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Jasper wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:50 pm

Also the package mkisofs is not included, as it is required by PCompress to create ISO's.

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 7e940a0d89

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The next periodic Github Woof-CE build is available:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 0658730134

It probably needs to be transferred somewhere more accessible unpacked as individual components

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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gychang wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:13 am

LocalSend does not work correctly.

More information needed! Errors when run in terminal?

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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peebee wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:04 am
gychang wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:13 am

LocalSend does not work correctly.

More information needed! Errors when run in terminal?

For several days LocalSend would not work, so I installed and setup gFTP to download photos from my pixel phone to the PC. Now LocalSend is working again, so the problem is resolved for somehow. The problem when I was having was when the LocalSend on the PC was in receive mode and when I launched the phone LocalSend in a send mode, there was no client (named P4) on the phone send screen. Now working!!

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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Thanks to all contributors :thumbup:

Uploaded the latest ISO to Mediafire

upup64n-24.04.iso -02 September 2024

https://www.mediafire.com/file/1bxulrbq ... 4.iso/file

Additional files:

devx_upup64n_24.04.sfs

https://www.mediafire.com/file/54cbfu5a ... 4.sfs/file

docx_upup64n_24.04.sfs

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ekbwyh6u ... 4.sfs/file

kernel_sources-6.8.12-kernel-kit.sfs

https://www.mediafire.com/file/oltj45t3 ... t.sfs/file

nlsx_upup64n_24.04.sfs

https://www.mediafire.com/file/4gfb85ld ... 4.sfs/file

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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gychang wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 11:18 am
peebee wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:04 am
gychang wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:13 am

LocalSend does not work correctly.

More information needed! Errors when run in terminal?

For several days LocalSend would not work, so I installed and setup gFTP to download photos from my pixel phone to the PC. Now LocalSend is working again, so the problem is resolved for somehow. The problem when I was having was when the LocalSend on the PC was in receive mode and when I launched the phone LocalSend in a send mode, there was no client (named P4) on the phone send screen. Now working!!

gFTP is not currently included in the build recipe........... it can be added.........
anything else?

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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@peebee

Yah \o/ Conman is working for me :thumbup:

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I am not using the fdrv.sf ( however, I think it is useful having a large base of drivers available :thumbup: ) and using my previous 'save' file which had the relevant drivers.

Just a cosmetic issue regarding missing icons.

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The applications do function correctly regardless.

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Thanks again!

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Just an observation and am not sure if is an issue?

In previous OSes, I usually right click on a script and am presented with a menu dialogue box from which I choose 'run in terminal'

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So, this time round, I can simply click on the script and it is automatically run.

It did give me some concerns as running scripts without user input might lead to security issues.

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Mpv configuration suggestions?

  • Should the audio device be set as Pipewire instead of Alsa/Pulse?

##################
# audio settings #
##################

# Specify default audio driver (see --ao=help for a list).
ao = pipewire

  • This is a syntax change

##################
# other settings #
##################

# If the file seems to be valid UTF-8, prefer UTF-8.
sub-codepage = utf8:cp1250
sub-scale-with-window = no
sub-font-size = 60
sub-color = 1/1/0

  • To remove the OpenGL error message 'change to gpu'

##################
# video settings #
##################

# Specify default video driver (see --vo=help for a list).
vo=xv

  • To suppress the cache settings messages simply add a 'hash' symbol to uncomment the text.

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So, this time round, I can simply click on the script and it is automatically run.

It did give me some concerns as running scripts without user input might lead to security issues.

On F96-CE_4 and most Puppy Linux variants will allow an executable script or program to run when it is clicked on with the mouse.

The nice thing about the right-click run in a terminal option is that one can see terminal output from the run of the program or script. When executed by clicking on the program or script, there is no output unless there is a logged record of the results.

run-in-a-terminal is a Rox app, and I miss having the option as well. Should be easy to include and add to the mime configuration and right-click menus

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My install updated from the 'release' version to the 240902 version. No hitches so far. MPV plays my test DVD correctly and starts with no nags in terminal incorporating the changes suggested here: viewtopic.php?p=130129#p130129 In particular, ao=pipewire seems ok. Thanks @Jasper.

Clipit on board, as it was in the release testing version. connman continues to work well for me as it has since V11 at least. All my portables continue functional under the new version and Deadbeef played my test CD correctly.

Other than @peebees' LXDE/PCManFM and my look'n'feel, all I am carrying in my custom adrive is:

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lx_right_clicks-0.7|lx_right_clicks|0.7||Desktop|108K||lx_right_clicks-0.7.pet||Make/Edit Shortcut||||
gtk3_themeswitcher2|gtk3_themeswitcher|2||Desktop|44K||gtk3_themeswitcher2.pet|lxterminal|Change desktop, windows, theme etc.||||
desktop_drive_icons_x86_64-0.0.5|desktop_drive_icons_x86_64|0.0.5||BuildingBlock|100K||desktop_drive_icons_x86_64-0.0.5.pet||no description provided|slackware|current||
evince-fl|evince-fl|||Document|1584K||evince-fl.pet||View pdf documents - fossa64-low|puppy|||
psynclient-1.4.1|psynclient|1.4.1||System|68K||psynclient-1.4.1.pet|+gtkdialog,+xf86-input-synaptics|Configure your synaptics touchpad||||

I prefer evince to epdfview and it isn't costly to add.

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Jasper wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:10 pm

Mpv configuration suggestions?

@Marv

Configuration changes can be done with sed in:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... .conf#L146

Can you provide the changes you require?

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peebee wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:14 am
Jasper wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 5:10 pm

Mpv configuration suggestions?

@Marv

Configuration changes can be done with sed in:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... .conf#L146

Can you provide the changes you require?

I'll have a go at it later today. Nothing is essential but the changes suggested by @Jasper conform to the current MPV state and clean up the terminal output if run in one.

Later:

@peebee Looking in the main SFS from the 240902 build -V12?- (downloaded via jasper mediafire link), I see no MPV configuration file. Attached is what I am carrying in my adrive, with the suggested changes. I looked on github but couldn't see where to add or change this. Sorry.

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Jammypup64 also does not include a mpv.conf file.

@Marv

Do you use a Intel Gfx card?

In FP95 I do have VA-API and can see it is being used via Intel GPU top.

Strange, which HW Video Acceleration cannot be activated with NoblePup64.

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@Jasper

No, just the inbuilt intel graphics on all 6 of my laptops:

VIDEO REPORT: fossapup64, version 9.5
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz

X.Org X Server 1.20.8
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0

Chip description:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0126] (rev 09)
Subsystem: Fujitsu Limited. 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [10cf:15e9]
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: glx
Drivers requested to be loaded: intel

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dri2 fb glx libinput synaptics

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

Monitor : card0-LVDS-1
Model : LT133EE09400
WxH (cm) : 29x17

My pups: LxPupSc64 and Voidpup64 with LXDE ydrv & synaptics touchpad drivers, both using savefiles. Ydrv based NoblePup64 (JWM & LXDE), Bookworm64 & Fossapup64-small (LXDE/PCManFM). No savefiles, no fdrvs there. :thumbup:

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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I have been testing the 30Aug ISO with the 6.9.9 kernel. It's working just like Jammy64pup so my routine tweaks all behave the same, but there's a problem with the F-drive firmware on the ISO.

I get:

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Sep  5 08:51:01 puppypc12354 kern.info kernel: rtl_usb: rx_max_size 15360, rx_urb_num 8, in_ep 1
Sep  5 08:51:01 puppypc12354 kern.info kernel: rtl8192cu: Loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw_TMSC.bin
Sep  5 08:51:01 puppypc12354 kern.warn kernel: usb 1-5.2: Direct firmware load for rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw_TMSC.bin failed with error -2
Sep  5 08:51:01 puppypc12354 kern.warn kernel: usb 1-5.2: Direct firmware load for rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin failed with error -2
Sep  5 08:51:01 puppypc12354 kern.info kernel: rtlwifi: Loading alternative firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin
Sep  5 08:51:01 puppypc12354 kern.err kernel: rtlwifi: Selected firmware is not available

The reason seems to be that the rtlwifi firmware in the F-drive all has a .zst extension so the kernel does not find it. So WiFi does not work.

Another non-fatal issue with the kernel is that it doesn't have i2c_hid and i2c_hid_acpi built-in.

I never got Jammy64pup to work completely reliably, as the Intel driver would lose the connection to the HDMI display occasionally, leaving a grey screen but working OS, that could be shut down normally. This hasn't happened with noble64 yet.

EDIT
I fixed the firmware problem by using the jammy64pup F-drive. Now it fails later.

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Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info dbus-daemon[6357]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' requested by ':1.0' (uid=0 pid=6445 comm="/usr/sbin/bluetoothd") (using servicehelper)
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info connmand[6479]: lo {newlink} index 1 address 00:00:00:00:00:00 mtu 65536
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info connmand[6479]: lo {newlink} index 1 operstate 0 <UNKNOWN>
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info connmand[6479]: lo {newlink} index 1 address 00:00:00:00:00:00 mtu 65536
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info connmand[6479]: lo {newlink} index 1 operstate 0 <UNKNOWN>
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.err connmand[6479]: failed to read /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlx243c20094504/disable_ipv6
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.err connmand[6479]: failed to read /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlx243c20094504/use_tempaddr
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info connmand[6479]: wlx243c20094504 {create} index 2 type 1 <ETHER>
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info connmand[6479]: wlx243c20094504 {update} flags 4098 <DOWN>
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info connmand[6479]: wlx243c20094504 {newlink} index 2 address 24:3C:20:09:45:04 mtu 1500
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info connmand[6479]: wlx243c20094504 {newlink} index 2 operstate 2 <DOWN>
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info connmand[6479]: Adding interface wlx243c20094504 [ wifi ]
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.err connmand[6479]: The name net.connman.vpn was not provided by any .service files
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info dbus-daemon[6357]: [system] Activated service 'fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1' failed: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct
Sep  5 10:34:25 puppypc12354 daemon.info dbus-daemon[6357]: [system] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.hostname1' failed: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct
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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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Seems that the compression used during the kernel compile and build is zstd. This is becoming the default. I also have seen some older OS's unable to load modules or firmware because of the .zst

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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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@Marv

From Fossapup64 which appears to be utilising VA-API.

I did upload the Intel applications ages ago.
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Re: What issues with NoblePup need to be resolved?

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Builder of LxPups, SPups, UPup32s, VoidPups; LXDE, LXQt, Xfce addons; Chromium, Firefox etc. sfs; & Kernels

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