Wayland Desktops

[rockedge]

okular in KLV's needs these:

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makedepends="discount-devel djvulibre-devel ebook-tools-devel phonon-devel
 libchmlib-devel libkexiv2-devel poppler-qt6-devel libspectre-devel
 libqmobipocket6-devel libzip-devel libkexiv2-devel qca-qt6-devel
 qt6-speech-devel kf6-purpose-devel kf6-kbookmarks-devel
 kf6-kcompletion-devel kf6-kconfig-devel qt6-base-private-devel
 kf6-kconfigwidgets-devel kf6-kcoreaddons-devel kf6-kcrash-devel
 kf6-kdoctools-devel kf6-kiconthemes-devel kf6-kio-devel kf6-kirigami-devel
 kf6-kparts-devel kf6-kpty-devel kf6-kwallet-devel kf6-kwindowsystem-devel
 kf6-threadweaver-devel kf6-ktextwidgets-devel plasma-activities-devel"
depends="hicolor-icon-theme"
checkdepends="ebook-tools dbus"
short_desc="KDE Document Viewer

Which might be worth it for Okular's overall strengths.

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[Clarity]

Let me be clear (or clearer).

I reported something that I was surprised by in running the neon desktop in Live mode. It provided an unexpected swiftness that I found of interest.

I KNOW that GNOME and KDE have many built-in utilities present for user use. In the past, under X11, those added a performance penalty, though they do provide a usefulness which reduces the need for installing additional packages once on desktop.

In my case, I wanted to take a light review of its performance ... not whether is has lots of useful packages, notwithstanding. The performance in KDE v6.1 was 'surprising' swift and not what I anticipated. And use of its packages and the execution-performance TO DESKTOP got my attention.

If the test and a report angers some, I apologize that you misinterpreted the review. I neither asks for a change nor request one in the direction of the FirstRibIT or the KLs that emerge.

I do think that after other members review, there could be a use of this to consider if this would attract a larger audience from outside of the PLDF community to come into Puppyland. The discussion in other areas of the forum are discussed around the topic of "how to present forum distros to the larger audience" as seen in the efforts toward a Distrowatch WoofCE Official PUP and a couple other threads. Such outcome of those discussion (BKWP64 for now) will exist alongside EASY, which has attracted some, and FATDOG which has an audience, as well.

Do not take my review at face value. If YOU see the same share anything you think this community can benefit from, in what is found.

Taking aim at me is not why this area of WAYLAND in KLs was opened. But, if its useful to you to use me to show any disdain, then be my guest. (BTW: No one has sent a PM showing displeasure of my existence choosing to use the public forum instead.)

In my current review, I wonder if the responsiveness seen is a result of the underlying Neon system or if its KDE v6.1's use of the system that provided the performance I've seen. I am not sure but nonetheless, it was swift.

This Post, by me, is NOT aimed at anyone, anywhere. So dont take it personal.

[geo_c]

Let me be clear (or clearer).

Taking aim at me is not why this area of WAYLAND in KLs was opened. But, if its useful to you to use me to show any disdain, then be my guest. (BTW: No one has sent a PM showing displeasure of my existence choosing to use the public forum instead.)

This Post, by me, is NOT aimed at anyone, anywhere. So dont take it personal.

Here Here!

I'm with you.

I even think you could elevate this skill to an even more productive level.

Basically, you could arrange the flowchart like this:

CUTTING EDGE DESKTOPS
DESKTOP A
DESKTOP B
DESKTOP C

RUNS ON
ARCH
DEBIAN
UBUNTU
SLACK
DOS

KENNEL EQUIVALENTS
KLA
KL(YET TO BE ANNOUNCED)
KLV
KLU
KL(TINYCORE)

RUNS ON
WAYLAND
PIPEWIRE
XORG
ALSA
JACK

So basically a check list comparison.

[Clarity]

Thanks @geo_c. This thread serves itself, ATM; namely Wayland and observations.

What I have share in the KDE info is that, to me, over time, a KDE has improved enormously over past use of Linux distros with in. I started use in the old KNOPPIX days.

If I say something or show something that does not have credibilty, PLEASE offer correction or a better way to present evidence.

[geo_c]

Thanks @geo_c. This thread serves itself, ATM; namely Wayland and observations.

If I say something or show something that does not have credibilty, PLEASE offer correction or a better way to present evidence.

So does that mean you're declining to compile the market research data you find so that the KL development team can get the big picture and make prudent decisions on how to proceed with OS builds?

[Clarity]

That, I feel, is a development/developer's decision...not mine. I AM NOT A DEVELOPER!

Yes, I have a background, but I have never assumed that posture here in PLDF.

AT my age, I merely test things and report. And there a lot of distro developments in PLDF to keep me busy.

If someone like me offends in reporting, I'm sorry.

[geo_c]

That, I feel, is a development/developer's decision...not mine. I AM NOT A DEVELOPER!

Yes, I have a background, but I have never assumed that posture here in PLDF.

AT my age, I merely test things and report. And there a lot of distro developments in PLDF to keep me busy.

If someone like me offends in reporting, I'm sorry.

You keep apologizing!

I'm just checking to see if you were inclined to put some of that knowledge down in print for the benefit of the forum community. No expectations of course! It's a do-ocracy, as they say in "pup land."

I won't ask again.

[Clarity]

Thank @geo_c I know you mean well.

Keep up the good you continue to demo in the community. We need as many of you, too, as we can get.

AND, have a Good Vacation!

[Sofiya]

Thank @geo_c I know you mean well.

Keep up the good you continue to demo in the community. We need as many of you, too, as we can get.

AND, have a Good Vacation!

mmm... It sounded so sweet of you, as if a cat purred

[dancytron]

Wayfire is what Raspberry Pi is using, which means it will get development support going forward.

Maybe not Red Hat money level of support, but they'll make sure it works.

[Clarity]

@rockedge and others. Months ago, I too, started looking at the advantages of Tiling Windows, thanks in part to the work that @Sofiya and @wiak was doing in Wayland on the KL subforum areas. Found it appealing at a certain level while not so at another.

We forum users come from a pre-wayland background and although wayland has been around for a few years (like Pipewire) it is this Linux stuff to advance our hardware use.

Months ago I found this video which shares a comparison of Floating Windows and Tiling Windows in Linux. It helps to position a basic understanding in a reasonable way. And, this was useful to me. If you think the video will help, here it is: "Why You'd Want a Tiling Window...:

[wiak]

My 12 year old has been using KLV Sway since I released it. He recently out of the blue told me that he has grown to really like Sway and would never want to go back to floating windows structure. I understand his point of view, but the learning curve involving memorising key combinations have resulted in lazy me remaining more comfortable with the likes of xfce, but I do see that as much less efficient in the end...

[Clarity]

... in me remaining more comfortable with ...

That is exactly what the video shares.

He also shows the wayland-KDE ability doing both floating and tiling. He, too, is a seasoned Linux respected presenter. He justifies his use of that ability and that WM. Best of all worlds.

Not sure about being less efficient. That is a measure of one's productivity, IMHO.

[wiak]

Not sure about being less efficient. That is a measure of one's productivity, IMHO.

Yes, I was thinking about others in my family and in particular in terms of business usage. The quick convenience of auto tiling spreadsheets and pdf docs and so on for comparison purposes and particularly on wider screen monitors, which is generally used in our office environment.