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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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I can't think of any recent pup I had this problem. I run latest voidpup, s15pup, jammypup32, fp96CE_4, quickpup64 etc. - they use the i915 intel driver which is good enough for me (do not want to bother with nvidia driver).

If I run bookwormpup32/64 without ext. monitor all is well.

Since bookwormpups use overlay, which kernel do you recommend?

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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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one wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:17 pm

I can't think of any recent pup I had this problem. I run latest voidpup, s15pup, jammypup32, fp96CE_4, quickpup64 etc. - they use the i915 intel driver which is good enough for me (do not want to bother with nvidia driver).

If I run bookwormpup32/64 without ext. monitor all is well.

Since bookwormpups use overlay, which kernel do you recommend?

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Maybe try dropping out to terminal - run xorgwizard and select a different driver - intel or i915..........??

You do need a "usrmerge" kernel for BookwormPup - any of the ones at:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... el-kit.yml

would do but they will boot as aufs unless you put punionfs=overlay in the boot stanza.

or maybe a usrmerge kernel from @ozsouth from:
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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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You can find Debian-based kernels in https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... kernel.yml, currently it has the Debian 11, Debian 12, Debian testing (what will eventually become Debian 13, 6.5.13) and Debian unstable (6.5.13, soon 6.6.x) kernels rebuilt for use in Puppy without patches like aufs.

EDIT: the kernels based on Debian>12 are currently x86_64 only, because Debian might drop x86 kernels before Debian 13 (see https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-Plans-Cease-i386)

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dimkr wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:28 am

You can find Debian-based kernels in https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... kernel.yml, currently it has the Debian 11, Debian 12, Debian testing (what will eventually become Debian 13, 6.5.13) and Debian unstable (6.5.13, soon 6.6.x) kernels rebuilt for use in Puppy without patches like aufs.

EDIT: the kernels based on Debian>12 are currently x86_64 only, because Debian might drop x86 kernels before Debian 13 (see https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-Plans-Cease-i386)

BookwormPup32 already has the Debian-Bookworm kernel so using another one probably wouldn't change @one's problem.

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peebee wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:31 am

BookwormPup32 already has the Debian-Bookworm kernel so using another one probably wouldn't change @one's problem.

The Bullseye kernel is 5.10.x and @one says things worked fine with various Puppy releases that use 5.10.x.

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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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Hi @peebee and @dimkr,

thanks for your response.

Via the link to @ozsouth 's kernel creations I did not find a 32 bit_overlay-usrmerge_kernel - so I limited the test to BookwormPup64.

I took 5.10.174-64oz-ao-um and 5.15.131-64oz-ao-um and both boot fine up to the desktop - but show the same behavior as the original kernel 6.1.55. All boot with the "modesetting" driver ...

What works is to use xorgwizard and specify video driver intel (nv/nvidia does not work)- then you can adjust the monitor settings so that in the end the correct resolution is used on the external monitor (tray at the bottom of the screen and drive icons visible).

The same - without changing the kernel - I did with BookwormPup32 and got it to work.

This kind of solved the issue for me ...

I notice that in the Monitor Settings the second monitor is "right" positioned to the first one |3046x1050| (instead of "default", which means the first screen is cloned on the second). It is simply not possible to correct that because no confirmation dialog is appearing. Only after running xorgwizard this setting is automatically corrected to "default" and you can adjust the settings. Is there a "development setting" left in the iso?

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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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Looks good so far, however "Synapse update" in the Filesystem menu is not functional since none of the plocate components is installed :(
Relates also to the dysfunctional autostart file /etc/xdg/autostart/plocate-update.desktop

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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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MochiMoppel wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:22 pm

Looks good so far, however "Synapse update" in the Filesystem menu is not functional since none of the plocate components is installed :(
Relates also to the dysfunctional autostart file /etc/xdg/autostart/plocate-update.desktop

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https://sourceforge.net/projects/pb-gh- ... o/download ead7c298c79570e20b0f1c14aa3b0a03

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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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Are appimages supposed to work?

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/mnt/home/x/app/inkscape32/inkscape32_048.appimage: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkmm-2.4.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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MochiMoppel wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:20 am

Are appimages supposed to work?

I thought appimages were all 64-bit apps?? If so they won't work on a 32-bit distro.....

but also BookwormPup32 has:
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtkmm-3.0.so.1
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtkmm-3.0.so.1.1.0

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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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Teaser....

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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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Many DVD's will not play because there is no libdvdcss in BookwormPup32 at the time of posting.
Attaching the library below, compiled from source (downloaded from Videolan, the VLC developers).
Split-off DEV package is only needed if you will be compiling anything which depends on this library.
I presume this will be addressed later in Woof-CE or the specific Bookworm build recipes (others will decide the best way to approach this I guess), but for now this should offer a fix.
CSS in DVD's is a light but commonly-used copy protection encryption system for "Content Scrambling".

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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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OscarTalks wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:31 pm

Many DVD's will not play because there is no libdvdcss in BookwormPup32 at the time of posting.
Attaching the library below, compiled from source (downloaded from Videolan, the VLC developers).
Split-off DEV package is only needed if you will be compiling anything which depends on this library.
I presume this will be addressed later in Woof-CE or the specific Bookworm build recipes (others will decide the best way to approach this I guess), but for now this should offer a fix.
CSS in DVD's is a light but commonly-used copy protection encryption system for "Content Scrambling".

Thanks OT - already done:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 158c895aeb

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Re: BookwormPup32 feedback

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Compiled from source with --disable-tdb these small libcanberra .pet packages should prevent creation and accumulation of /root/.cache/event-sound-cache.tdb cache files.
A bit more information in the 64bit discussion thread here:-
viewtopic.php?p=110516#p110516

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Re: BookwormPup32 for testing

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gyrog wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:20 am

I now have BookwormPup32 booting directly to the desktop.

What I did:
Boot with "pfix=nox"
Run "xorgwizard" to specify "intel" as the driver, and start X.
Using desktop, reboot, creating a savefolder, (thus saving the modified '/etc/X11/xorg.conf').
Remove "pfix=nox" boot parameter.
Boot directly to desktop.

thanks gyrog, :thumbup2: i was booting to a blank screen when trying latest release BookwormPup32-23.12-240223.iso and your exact procedure worked for my intel Xeon E3-1200 [8086:0412] graphics card!
system is now using the i915 after specifying "intel" (without the quotes)

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