EasyOS Kirkstone-series version 5.7

Vverve · Post by **Vverve** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:23 pm

parents directories is the right term ,not folders ,my bad ,if it confused some !
And just for learning purpose ,can someone explain what occuring now ,as it worked before ?
So sorry i cannot in time pinpoint the exact moment it started to go wrong !!!
This drive does have partitions with different fs ,vfat,ntfs ,ext2+qcow in it & ext4 ,
and yes , some have been pretty full ,did had to make ''space'' just to update easyos that keep all revisions ,which is ,a memory hungry ,but ,could ease some ,if not used to marvelous frugal option install way to do .
This ssd does ''passed'' smartmontools health tests ,it says ...
I will give it a shot with 5.6.2 on an external ext4 drive and share result !!
I guess that is a price to pay ,to have non coders users ,calling a distro ''easy'' !!!
and big Thank you for keeping your cool + all your works BK .

BarryK · Post by **BarryK** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:49 pm

EasyOS version 5.6.3 is released.

Blog announcement and d/l links:

https://bkhome.org/news/202311/easyos-k ... eased.html

Vverve · Post by **Vverve** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:30 am

Update to 5.6.3 ,fine
Successfully created a pet from an external drive .

Just found that don570 vs uextract vs easyos
Hmmm ,still using uextract 4.7 ,odd i did not saw it was up to 4.11 ,and tested in easyos !!
and 4.10b by don570 ,obviously ,missed those post !!!!

What's next ,i'll find an hint, an explanation for weird easyos pet creation in 6 month?

Anyhow the gliches , great distro !!!

don570 · Post by **don570** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:28 pm

and 4.10b by don570 ,obviously ,missed those post !!!!

I'll check uextract 4.11 a see if I can get a pet to work.
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don570 · Post by **don570** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:34 pm

EasyOS Kirkstone-series version 5.6.3

I did a check with latest Blender 4 download
and latest nvidia SFS
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... _amd64.sfs

Disabled networking with tray icon and used SFS get app
since I don't have home internet.

I checked Blender 4
and everything works so far.

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don570 · Post by **don570** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:55 pm

EasyOS Kirkstone-series version 5.6.3

There is one problem with boot time init.rc script that I stumbled upon.
----> Changing a keyboard layout when the desktop is running i.e. X server is running
The problem is that I don't think this is possible if the nvidia proprietary video driver is in use.

Here's the procedure to duplicate problem.
I want to change keyboard layout from 'us' to 'fr'

Start menu > Setup > Mouse/keyboard Wizard
keyboard layout for country
I selected french 'fr'
The app recommends to restart X
Start menu > Rectify > Restart X server

I went to black screen console --> french azerty keyboard is in use by console.
I typed 'xwin' but that was ignored
Screen suggested xorgwizard but I was afraid that would change my xorg.conf file
So I typed 'reboot'

I rebooted with nvidia driver but no french azerty keyboard

/etc/keymap file has 'us'

I went to mouse/keyboard wizard again
I choose 'fr' layout again
/etc/keymap is fr
restart X
Start menu > Rectify > Restart X server
x failed to start
xwin did nothing so I typed 'reboot'
booted to a black screen

In desperation I typed 'xorgwizard' and chose nvidia proprietary driver.
To my surprise it works perfectly.
I typed 'xwin' and this allowed me to get to desktop using nvidia driver
however keyboard was set to 'us' again

Is it possible to set a keyboard layout other than 'us' when nvidia proprietary video driver is chosen???

tammi806 · Post by **tammi806** » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:01 pm

I did my upgrade from 5.6.2 to 5.6.3 and all seems to be working good OOTB.

Thanks Barry K.

don570 · Post by **don570** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:58 pm

It wasn't easy but I finally was able to make a pet package for UExtract 4.11
There are some notes to help other developers make right click menu apps
viewtopic.php?p=104021#p104021
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Vverve · Post by **Vverve** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:49 am

solved pet creation ...Old Right-click-6.7.7 pet does enable creating pet wherever your wishes correctly in easyos...in french too.
You tell me what do what in it !!! thank you don570
so , yes i was able to create pet ''normaly'' before i reinstall easyos ,being with the same .session for so long ,i forgot to reinstall this powerfull utility!!
Missed so much right-click on script run-in-terminal option +++
it's back !! There is a 6.9.9 (2018) thank you don570 ,still available on murga archive.

BarryK · Post by **BarryK** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:06 am

Vverve ,
I have made some changes that will hopefully fix your problem with /etc/keymap containing "us", and xvkbd being wrong layout:

https://bkhome.org/news/202311/trying-t ... on-us.html

don570,
This might fix your problem also.

The fix will be in Easy 5.6.4, coming soon.

Vverve · Post by **Vverve** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 1:03 pm

BK , are you coding while riding on your electric tricycle in the outback?
I guess ...Working on easyvoid a few km ? no pressure
The don570 right-click pet solution , i get it ,it's a write priviledge patche for pet creation.
No ages to learn ,here 1966-20??
One more happy end user i am.
Keep on coding guys !!!

BarryK · Post by **BarryK** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:48 am

Easy 5.6.4 is out, see blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202311/easyos-k ... eased.html

There is probably going to be a slow-down for awhile, as xmas is upon us.

tammi806 · Post by **tammi806** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:59 pm

BarryK wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:48 am
Easy 5.6.4 is out, see blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202311/easyos-k ... eased.html

There is probably going to be a slow-down for awhile, as xmas is upon us.

I went ahead and did a clean frugal install to a USB stick just for the hell of it and so far all is well.
I went ahead and enabled Hardware Acceleration as I've never a problem with it in Chromium.

Thanks for the new Easy OS @BarryK.

PS
I have some newer desktops that have amd a8 apu processor and amd a10 apu processor and for some reason the cpu temp tray doesn't display.

It has always worked OOTB on Intel processors.

No big deal just curious.

Can't post no specs at the moment because I have the desktop apart.

Thanks.

Clarity · Post by **Clarity** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:00 am

Booted to desktop via launch from Ventoy. Thanks for Chrommium!

Couple of cli commands did not work. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. For example swapon --show

Which/where instructions for loading nvidia driver?
I have scoured Easy's Menu and the Desktop for some hint. But unsucessfully seeing steps for this version.
Edit: Found it buried in SFSGET Utility after its Repo update.

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tammi806 · Post by **tammi806** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:44 pm

tammi806 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:59 pm
I have some newer desktops that have amd a8 apu processor and amd a10 apu processor and for some reason the cpu temp tray doesn't display.

It has always worked OOTB on Intel processors.

No big deal just curious.

Can't post no specs at the moment because I have the desktop apart.

Thanks.

Some system specs and it appears to no be able to find any sensors.
I have seen this before with other computers that just don't have sensors.
I guess this is one of them anyway everything works seems strange though but I'm not going to worry about it.

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# inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: EASYPC30723 Kernel: 5.15.138 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.4.2
           Distro: EasyOS 5.6.4 kirkstone64
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M11BB v: Rev X.0x UEFI: ASUSTeK (Licensed from AMI) v: 0307 date: 08/07/2013
CPU:       Quad core AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon HD Graphics (-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 29611
           clock speeds: max: 3700 MHz 1: 1800 MHz 2: 1800 MHz 3: 1800 MHz 4: 2379 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Richland [Radeon HD 8670D] bus-ID: 00:01.0
           Display Server: X.org 1.21.1.8 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 124x35 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Trinity HDMI Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:01.1
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k5.15.138
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: rtl8821ae port: e000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 port: d000 bus-ID: 04:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: NA (-)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST9320325AS size: 320.1GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: USB_Flash_Drive size: 31.0GB
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 168 Uptime: 12:59 Memory: 979.3/7155.8MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 5.1.161) inxi: 2.3.8

BarryK · Post by **BarryK** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:00 pm

On my computer:

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# swapon --show
NAME           TYPE       SIZE USED PRIO
/dev/nvme1n1p6 partition 62.5G   0B   -2

Vverve · Post by **Vverve** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:39 pm

5.6.4 updated from .3 ,all good .
Lost right-click.pet rox choices ,reinstalling fix it !
Did not removed my xvkbd fix for keyboard layout , as a test ,i will do it eventually and come back with it .

Bk ,one question :
,frugal install here ,
is saving session thru ''save'' dialog historicaly always created a .session-transit and only save at reboot?
would a ''save now'' option ,without having to write one more file( .session-transit here) to disk be add?
Knowing you got that choice on reboot/poweroff to save or not ,ok ,but lets say ,i dont need to save rest of the session, just those first changes ,
optimizing unnecessary writing .
Note; i do ,when not too many changes(like install or uninstalling pet) write directly to .session .

Thank you for all , enjoying your work daily for all purposes !!!

Vverve · Post by **Vverve** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:03 pm

Oh you dear coders ...
sorry, if obvious for some and a little off topic,
but battery applet talking, since it does not work as is here.

How about a simple battery applet that invoke;
cat /sys/class/power_supply/BATT/*

Yes weird tablet here the ''BATT'' ,usually 0 or 1 , here T !!?!!

Doable ,with choices 0,1 ,T ?
with or without status deamon showing % left in tray.

Sad pupsysinfo wont verbose , trying to reverse-engineered and learn how it do it !!

On ac or battery , with or without an applet ,
see an happy user in me !!!

ottod · Post by **ottod** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:33 pm

Reporting a bug with Nvidia detecting code recently added.
I have a laptop with dual video card: an Nvidia GTX-1650ti and an AMD CPU with integrated Radeon. Up to EasyOS 5.6.3, where no Nvidia detecting code was present, when installing the correct Nvidia SFS all was good, but now I get the "No NVIDIA GPU detected" message on boot.
This is my lspci:

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00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne Root Complex
00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne IOMMU
00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
00:01.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge
00:01.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne PCIe GPP Bridge
00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
00:02.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne PCIe GPP Bridge
00:02.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne PCIe GPP Bridge
00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Internal PCIe GPP Bridge to Bus
00:08.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Internal PCIe GPP Bridge to Bus
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 51)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 51)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 0
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 1
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 2
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 3
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 4
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 5
00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 6
00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 7
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU117M [GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Mobile] (rev a1)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 10fa (rev a1)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16)
03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8822CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
04:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: KIOXIA Corporation NVMe SSD Controller BG4
05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Renoir (rev c6)
05:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) Platform Security Processor
05:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne USB 3.1
05:00.4 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir/Cezanne USB 3.1
05:00.5 Multimedia controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor (rev 01)
05:00.6 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h/19h HD Audio Controller
06:00.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 81)
06:00.1 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 81)

Clarity · Post by **Clarity** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:49 pm

Thanks @BarryK

As you probably have already reviewed, your IMGs do boot to desktop via Ventoy for cursory reviews...prior to an actual committed install.

It allows navigation of the system, but some of the system seemingly misbehaves:

commands not working
installation of some apps
remastering anew to capture in a new image file any desktop tailoring from the review session

to name a few.

This is not a request, merely observation as others might use this path for booting similar to other IMG/ISO file bootings users do via Ventoy.

don570 · Post by **don570** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:05 pm

I tried changing keyboard layout using Start menu app ' Mouse/keyboard layout'
but still got erratic results.

But I noticed that when I booted up 'fr' is in the /etc/keymap file

This nearly fooled me since I assumed that I was using the 'us' layout.

The problem is entering the Password
Knowing the keyboard layout is critical.

So I suggest that at boot-time the line for the Password should be

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Keyboard layout: fr  Password: ********

In other words the user is reminded what keyboard layout he has chosen
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don570 · Post by **don570** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:17 pm

I'm still working on a pet package for uextract 4.11
I have problems making right click links .
BarryK suggested links to .desktop files
so I tried the following in the pinstall.sh file

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ln -fs  /usr/share/applications/uextract.desktop    /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.application_x-mimearchive/"MHTML Ripper"
ln -fs  /usr/share/applications/uextract.desktop   /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.message_rfc822/"MHTML Ripper"
ln -fs  /usr/share/applications/uextract.desktop  /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.text_html/"MHTML Ripper"

These work initially but then are erased.
Any suggestions??

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don570 · Post by **don570** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:20 pm

I made an SFS of ptm timer and it works well however sometimes when I install it
there is two icons in Start menu
The entry with the lock doesn't work , the other does.

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BarryK · Post by **BarryK** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:39 am

ottod wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:33 pm
Reporting a bug with Nvidia detecting code recently added.
I have a laptop with dual video card: an Nvidia GTX-1650ti and an AMD CPU with integrated Radeon. Up to EasyOS 5.6.3, where no Nvidia detecting code was present, when installing the correct Nvidia SFS all was good, but now I get the "No NVIDIA GPU detected" message on boot.

@ottod
Hi, I know what the cause of the problem is. Could you please confirm with the busybox lspci:

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# busybox lspci

See the fix in this other thread; the 'initrd' file has a fault:

viewtopic.php?p=104631#p104631

and earlier, how to fix:

viewtopic.php?p=104544#p104544

Could you please tell me something:
You had the nvidia sfs installed in 5.6.3.
After updating to 5.6.4, did you have to reinstall the nvidia sfs?

the nvidia sfs is supposed to automatically carry over to when do an update, but that code has not yet been verified to work.

BarryK · Post by **BarryK** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:05 am

don570 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:17 pm
I'm still working on a pet package for uextract 4.11
I have problems making right click links .
BarryK suggested links to .desktop files
so I tried the following in the pinstall.sh file
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ln -fs  /usr/share/applications/uextract.desktop    /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.application_x-mimearchive/"MHTML Ripper"
ln -fs  /usr/share/applications/uextract.desktop   /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.message_rfc822/"MHTML Ripper"
ln -fs  /usr/share/applications/uextract.desktop  /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.text_html/"MHTML Ripper"
These work initially but then are erased.
Any suggestions??

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Reply is here:

viewtopic.php?p=104637#p104637

Vverve · Post by **Vverve** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:18 pm

Thank you BK

I was looking into right-click.pet which wont old right-click option on reboot.

don570 · Post by **don570** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:50 pm

I checked what would cause a second icon to appear in start menu (see image)
and I discovered a way to duplicate the action.

I installed ptmtimer 3.4 SFS as instructed
-turn off networking at bottom of tray and run SFSget app
-I clicked on 'New' button accidentally.
I normally click on 'Existing' or 'Main' button

-I probably continued to work by using bootmanager to load the SFS in the Main window
This results in two icons - one works properly and the other doesn't

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Vverve · Post by **Vverve** » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:43 pm

Get some fun ''bash''ing in, trying to learn how radky pup-sysinfo do it ,for the sake of a working battery applet.
Laught with me i'll come with something working!!!!sigh sigh..
I've always hate school...but do have very nice memories about most of my teachers.

Your humble half off topic master ,if a master of something i could be saw at...
Vverve

BarryK · Post by **BarryK** » Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:03 am

don570 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:20 pm
I made an SFS of ptm timer and it works well however sometimes when I install it
there is two icons in Start menu
The entry with the lock doesn't work , the other does.
screenshot-ptmtimer.png
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Yeah, there's a bug.

I will need some time to fix it.
Relatives from inter-state arriving today, for 4 - 5 days, so won't have much time to do any EasyOS stuff.

BarryK · Post by **BarryK** » Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:06 am

Clarity wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:49 pm
Thanks @BarryK

As you probably have already reviewed, your IMGs do boot to desktop via Ventoy for cursory reviews...prior to an actual committed install.

It allows navigation of the system, but some of the system seemingly misbehaves:

commands not working

installation of some apps

remastering anew to capture in a new image file any desktop tailoring from the review session

to name a few.

This is not a request, merely observation as others might use this path for booting similar to other IMG/ISO file bootings users do via Ventoy.

Yes, Ventoy is a very unnatural environment to be running Easy, and I fully expect some things to be broken.

EDIT:
I take that back. Have just now tested Easy in Ventoy, looks pretty good:

viewtopic.php?p=104915#p104915

...haven't done much testing yet.

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