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EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:26 pm
by BarryK

Announcement and links here:

https://bkhome.org/news/202208/easyos-d ... eased.html

Feedback welcome!


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:22 am
by BarryK

Muthukrishnan has reported success with Realtek wifi on his computer, that didn't work in previous release of EasyOS:

https://bkhome.org/news/202208/realtek- ... works.html


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:37 am
by scsijon

Just did an automatic update from 4.3 to 4.3.4 which seems to have run ok except i also had the devx installed. It has not updated that or told me it was not happening. Could that be added please, I don't mind which, just as one of them happens so I can remember to do it manually or it checks and downloads it to the correct spot also please. thanks


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:52 pm
by FeodorF

The only part missing after the update from 4.3.3 to 4.3.4 was my SeaMonkey icon on the desktop.
I had pulled it from : /files/downloads/seamonkey/seamonkey to my 4.3.3 desktop.

As my BIOS PC with EasyOS 4.3.3/4.3.4 installed prompts a flashing cursor for quite some time without text messages during part of the boot process I would consider to set the boot option from "quiet yes" to "quiet no", so one can see "... initrd loading" and "... vmlinux loading".


4 GB SD card is all that is needed

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:39 pm
by don570

Dell 900 series desktop computer -

I can confirm that a 4 GB SD card is all that is needed to boot Easy OS. Very fast and stable.
Krita 5.1 appimage and Blender 3.2.2 appimage ran perfectly. No incompatiblity problems with libraries.
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One suggestion during booting --> US English should be at the top of list of keyboard layouts
instead of reading through the long list and realizing that all I had to do was press <Enter>
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Wishlist:

I wish that wacom pressure pen was automatically recognized...
The mouse is recognized but not the pen stylus.

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Nvidia audio was recognized and worked in speaker test.
The audiomixer 'Mute' button isn't very clear. A big X through the icon would make it easier to see.

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Nvidia video card will need a driver installed. :roll:
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My Dell Chromebook doesn't see the server since it only recognizes SMB servers.
A screenshot of my chromebook shows that a fatdog server is recognized.

Chromebook needs  SMB  server
Chromebook needs SMB server
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Re: 4 GB SD card is all that is needed

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:22 am
by wiak
don570 wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:39 pm

Wishlist:

I wish that wacom pressure pen was automatically recognized...
The mouse is recognized but not the pen stylus.

I presume you have installed xf86-input-wacom

My kid uses pressure sensitive tablet (cheap chinese one though, not wacom per se) and pressure sensitivity working fine, and different linux (a weedogged EndeavourOS).

I think that xf86-input-wacom may have been needed but I can't remember now actually.

https://linuxwacom.github.io/

I also note from above link that a kernel driver is required (modules): input-wacom

https://github.com/linuxwacom/input-wac ... rom-source


wacom driver

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:34 pm
by don570

There is a driver available from Barry K.
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... -64.tar.xz
I'll try it .
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smb server is successfull

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:42 pm
by don570

I was able to get Smb server to work properly.
Install --->
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... -64.tar.xz

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I tested with my Chromebook.
It saw the server.
The user was root
The default password for puppy linux was used

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Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:46 pm
by don570

I tested two USB wifi adaptors and they both worked out of the box :thumbup2:
They were recognized immediately after plugging them in.

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Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:16 am
by BarryK
don570 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:46 pm

I tested two USB wifi adaptors and they both worked out of the box :thumbup2:
They were recognized immediately after plugging them in.

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Good, but I'm curious why you used SNS. The network tray applet defaults to NetworkManager. Did you have issues with that?

The SNS executable is there, but no menu entry for it and it is kind of deprecated. The file /usr/local/bin/defaultconnect defaults to this:

Code: Select all

#!/bin/sh
exec nm-setup

...which is for NetworkMnager.


Re: smb server is successfull

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:23 am
by BarryK
don570 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:42 pm

I was able to get Smb server to work properly.
Install --->
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... -64.tar.xz
Screenshot-samba-setup.png

Yes, samba can be installed via the package manager.

I left it out because the package is big, 12MB. However, I will consider putting it back in for the next release.
Coz, really want to have everything included that will cater for the needs of most people.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:26 am
by BarryK

Note also, I intend to include Geany plugins package in the next build.

It's another case of catering to most users out-of-the-box.

In my case, I like the HTML plugin, which will save a code file with colour syntax highlighting. Great for creating documentation.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:28 am
by BarryK

Have any of you guys been able to run EasyOS in a virtual machine?
I received an email from someone who tried with qemu, and failed.
I haven't tried it myself.
I have a vague memory, someone did succeed, but I don't recall who or when.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:23 am
by rockedge

I imagine EasyOS will run on a VirtualBox or QEMU machine installing it to a virtual HDD and using the EasyOS stock boot mechanism


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:51 am
by mouldy
BarryK wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:16 am
don570 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:46 pm

I tested two USB wifi adaptors and they both worked out of the box :thumbup2:
They were recognized immediately after plugging them in.

capture6767.png
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Good, but I'm curious why you used SNS. The network tray applet defaults to NetworkManager. Did you have issues with that?

The SNS executable is there, but no menu entry for it and it is kind of deprecated. The file /usr/local/bin/defaultconnect defaults to this:

Code: Select all

#!/bin/sh
exec nm-setup

...which is for NetworkMnager.

I cant speak to don570's reasons. But can say some of us over the years have had very mixed results with network manager. Last time I grabbed a laptop to take to library, it happened to be one with old Lubuntu installed. Network manager in it did fine for wifi. Found like 35 possible connections in the neighborhood around the library, course I was only interested in library wifi. But at home without DSL or cable, I usb tether to my phone using an app called Easytether. It provides a tun interface. ONLY two distributions with network manager have managed to deal with tun out of the box without bunch workaround nonsense. Manjaro and Fedora 35. And they can require I unplug and then replug usb cable to work, sometimes they have to be plugged/unplugged, sometimes they just work automagically. Debian based versions network manager are especially bad and super frustrating. I wasted lot time trying to make them work, was NOT amused.

Dougal script in Puppy handles tun well, but several steps. I finally just got so easiest in ALL linux distributions, is to define the tun interface statically in /etc/network/interfaces and use "ifup/ifdown". Yea old school way doing things. But with a simple script I am connected in one mouse click. Usually nothing to install, just manual editing. I just nuke network manager. Or leave it, doesnt matter by default it ignores connections defined in /etc/network/interfaces. though leaving it means it tries to rewrite the /etc/resolv.conf file. I would use ifup/ifdown for ethernet too. Its just little inconvenient in laptop that is hauled around and needs to find the available wifi. Thus miss wicd.

Connman is just as bad as network manager IMHO, both want complete control and then are not necessarily able to do what needs to be done. Wicd is fine, but deprecated along with python2. Supposedly to be a python3 version coming but wouldnt hold my breath. I kinda liked Frisbee for wifi cant do tun.


Re: MTP Device

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:17 pm
by bugnaw333

No data on the image file.


network tray applet

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:21 pm
by don570

Good, but I'm curious why you used SNS. The network tray applet defaults to NetworkManager. Did you have issues with that?

The network tray works fine but I like an app that lists drivers or inits. Apple OS had an app that listed drivers and inits and you could turn them on or off with a click. I got in the habit of using that.

Fluppy linux had an app that listed the wifi adaptors that were recognized . I liked that. SNS does the same.
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Samba feature

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:26 pm
by don570

Yes, samba can be installed via the package manager.

I left it out because the package is big, 12MB. However, I will consider putting it back in for the next release.
Coz, really want to have everything included that will cater for the needs of most people.

Samba doesn't have to be included. Just a message to install the package is enough.
Clicking on the red/green icon to start and stop is a good feature. :thumbup:
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Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:35 pm
by don570

I would appreciate if the wacom driver was included since there isn't instructions to install,
so a new user will be confused. Few users know about the 'blacklist'

blacklist
blacklist
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After the wacom driver is loaded Gimp paint program will recognize the tablet stylus and pressure can be used.

gimp preferences
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Re: MTP Device

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:15 pm
by BarryK
bugnaw333 wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:17 pm

No data on the image file.

Have you tried copying the image file to the PC first?


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:08 pm
by bugnaw333

yep... tried that and still no data on the saved image file.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:22 am
by bugnaw333

Here it is:


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:36 am
by bugnaw333

Comparing to FatDog.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:43 am
by BarryK
bugnaw333 wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:22 am

Here it is:

@bugnaw333
Try it a different way.
Click on "share" on the desktop, then connect the phone via usb, and tick the "Android USB" checkbox, then see if it works.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:14 am
by bugnaw333

It displays "nothing" but on my phone, displayed "connected to PC (mtp).


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:56 am
by BarryK
bugnaw333 wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:14 am

It displays "nothing" but on my phone, displayed "connected to PC (mtp).

Did you plug in the usb cable after starting EasyShare?
Did you click on the Android scan button?


Re: EasyOS Dunfell-series 64-bit version 4.3.4

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:51 am
by bugnaw333

yes.

No issues on bluetooth.


EasyOS incorrectly detects phantom partitions

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:41 pm
by rudyt

A picture is worth 100 words :) There is no Partition sda1 on my drive (confirmed by fdisk), but EasyOS thinks there is. There used to be a 100MB NTFS partition there many moons ago when this was a Windows PC, but it's long since been deleted (but never wiped).

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USB bluetooth adaptors

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:27 pm
by don570

Just a warning to Linux users .......

Few USB bluetooth adaptors will work in Linux,
and they don't work well in Windows either due to overlap in frequency spectrum
they both use.
Changing frequency spectrum is recommended

Bluetooth only does its work on a 2.4GHz frequency, whereas many WiFI networks these days will run on both 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies. You’ll find many of today’s newest wireless devices taking advantage of WiFi’s 5GHz frequency, which isn’t nearly as congested as the 2.4GHz frequency and helps to reduce any potential interference between WiFi and Bluetooth networks.

In Easy linux my bluetooth device won't appear on list.
My advice is to check for compatibility when buying bluetooth devices._
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Re: EasyOS incorrectly detects phantom partitions

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:13 am
by BarryK
rudyt wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:41 pm

A picture is worth 100 words :) There is no Partition sda1 on my drive (confirmed by fdisk), but EasyOS thinks there is. There used to be a 100MB NTFS partition there many moons ago when this was a Windows PC, but it's long since been deleted (but never wiped).
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Does sda1 show up in /sys/block/sda/?

Also, run:

# probepart

And:

# blkid /dev/sda1