S15Pup - Slackware-15.0 Woof-CE builds

peebee · Post by **peebee** » Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:05 pm

dimkr wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:24 am
This is a bug in ROX-Filer, fixed in 2021 - https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/r ... ee728d5f2e, but S15Pup uses an old ROX-Filer .pet without this fix.

rox-filer has been changed to a petbuild for future S15Pup builds

see: https://github.com/peabee/releases/releases 231002

greengeek · Post by **greengeek** » Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:44 am

Hi peebee, I am trialling Spup15-64bit and struggling with utilities that require Python3

I could not find python3 in the PPM or in the devx.

Do you have any idea if the S15 64bit pup is suitable for software using Python3? cheers!

OscarTalks · Post by **OscarTalks** » Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:35 am

greengeek wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:44 am
I could not find python3 in the PPM or in the devx.

There is this one in the "patches" Slackware repo:-
https://packages.slackware.com/?r=slack ... ck15.0.txz
Which should be better than the 3.9.10 in the original Slackware64-15.0 repo
I would expect it to show up in PPM but I am not in S15Pup at the moment
EDIT- The above package shows as "already installed" so I wonder exactly what problem you are seeing?

peebee · Post by **peebee** » Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:53 am

https://slackware.pkgs.org/15.0/slackwa ... 0.txz.html

https://slackware.uk/slackware/slackwar ... ck15.0.txz

OscarTalks · Post by **OscarTalks** » Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:52 am

Python3-3.9.18 is in the devx of S15Pup
With devx loaded I just did a test of yt-dlp downloader which depends on python3 and it worked OK

greengeek · Post by **greengeek** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:09 am

OscarTalks wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:52 am
Python3-3.9.18 is in the devx of S15Pup
With devx loaded I just did a test of yt-dlp downloader which depends on python3 and it worked OK

Where within the devx are you seeing it? I see /usr/include/python2.7 but not 3.x

I will try with the python3 links peebee and yourself have posted and see how i go...

Cheers!

OscarTalks · Post by **OscarTalks** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:35 am

greengeek wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:09 am
Where within the devx are you seeing it? I see /usr/include/python2.7 but not 3.x
I will try with the python3 links peebee and yourself have posted and see how i go

Stuff under /usr/include will be headers (for compiling), not executables.
Python3 executable is /usr/bin/python3.9 with /usr/bin/python3 being a symlink to it

There is also a legacy executable at /usr/bin/python2.7 with /usr/bin/python2 being a symlink to that.
With devx loaded, all of these will appear in system.
One thing to be aware of is that /usr/bin/python (without any number suffix) is a symlink to python2.7 and not python3.9

So if you have some program which is attempting to call simply "python"
It will be offered python2 and not python3 which may not work.
If you discover (or suspect) that this is happening, try deleting /usr/bin/python and re-creating it as a symlink to /usr/bin/python3.9

Clarity · Post by **Clarity** » Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:53 pm

@OscarTalks give excellent guidance.

Maybe its time to move all new forum Slacks v15s with python to v3.xx+ and move on from old v2 to avoid this confusion that continues to hang around...if possible.

OscarTalks · Post by **OscarTalks** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:27 pm

I have encountered an issue with S15Pup
Experimenting with the Private Internet Access app I found that while it works in most other recent 64bit Pups, in S15Pup there is an undefined symbol error relating to Qt5 libraries that were mismatched with something.
viewtopic.php?p=101140#p101140

Later experimenting with latest Linphone-desktop appimage I was getting exactly the same error, again with Qt5 libraries being unhappy.
Searching the error I discovered that it relates to the ICU libraries
When the jump in Slackware from 14.2 to 15.0 was made, the ICU libraries version number went up from 56 to 69, so the real libraries are all 69 but we have some symlinks with the number 56 in /usr/lib64
So I found that deleting the libicu*56 symlinks fixed the problem and allowed the 2 programs to run
Then I used checkdeps -system to try to figure out if deleting them had broken anything (caused missing dependencies)
Turns out the only thing that needs 2 of those symlinks is osmo which was compiled in an earlier Slackware Pup
So I grabbed the osmo-0.2.10 patched source package from ibiblio and compiled it in S15Pup. Now everything is working.

Not sure if this is something which should be addressed in the build recipe, but I think that deleting those (around 4) symlinks and re-compiling osmo might be worth doing as there may be other things containing Qt5 which would be affected in the same way.

peebee · Post by **peebee** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:09 pm

OscarTalks wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:27 pm
So I found that deleting the libicu*56 symlinks fixed the problem and allowed the 2 programs to run

Thanks @OscarTalks

Fixed by: https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 94a616b62c

see:
https://github.com/peabee/releases/rele ... ase-231017

OscarTalks · Post by **OscarTalks** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:01 pm

peebee wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 1:09 pm
Fixed by: https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 94a616b62c
see:
https://github.com/peabee/releases/rele ... ase-231017

Just to confirm that in S15Pup64 231017
Builtin osmo-0.4.4
Private Internet Access VPN client .pet
Linphone-desktop version 512 AppImage
All 3 programs start and run OK now.

mmcdonald21 · Post by **mmcdonald21** » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:45 am

Hi, Been using this version for a few months. Downloaded ISO from Puppy ISO about page. Updated the Puppy Packagemanager
works well. Got DOSBox, Win8 and Regina REX working. Really like this version of puppy.

Problem: So me pets while successfully installing do not work.
BleachBit and Audacious specifically. Both install without missing libraries or messages.
However when clicking on menu item for each, nothing happens.
Don't know why the pets do not work. Any ideas?

CPU: Processor Name Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70GHz
Memory: 8GB Ram
Personal Storage File:
Name /Slacko64/s15pup64save.4fs
Total Size 5120 MB
Free Space 2077 MB
▶—— Distro Specifications ——◀

Operating System:
Distro Name S15Pup64 22.12 (x86_64)
Woof-CE Build testing;9f9c0dc;2023-02-10 10:09:08 +0000
Woof Version 9
Binary Base slackware64
Distro Base 15.0
Distro Date Feb 2023
User Session x11
Window Manager JWM v2.4.3
Desktop Start xwin jwm

mmcdonald21 · Post by **mmcdonald21** » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:56 am

S15pup64:

YASSM Samba Share search is unable to fine Shars on the same network.

Bionic YASSM Samba Share search works perfectly on same computer, same network.

Another pet that downloads/installs without error but does not work.

Thanks.

peebee · Post by **peebee** » Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:57 am

Hi @mmcdonald21

You need to run each app in a terminal and see what errors are reported - all the apps you mention are large ones that probably have missing dependencies..... maybe Qt5........ and others

Cheers!

Clarity · Post by **Clarity** » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:38 pm

mmcdonald21 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:56 am
S15pup64: ... is unable to fine Shars on the same network ...

In a terminal, does "findsmb" list your LAN PCs that are sharing shares?

Curious

OscarTalks · Post by **OscarTalks** » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:47 pm

mmcdonald21 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:45 am
Problem: So me pets while successfully installing do not work.
BleachBit and Audacious specifically. Both install without missing libraries or messages.
However when clicking on menu item for each, nothing happens.
Don't know why the pets do not work. Any ideas?

This version of Audacious was compiled and tested in S15Pup64 so should work fine. If it doesn't do so then the problem would be caused by changes you have made to your system:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/audaciou ... 4-s15p.pet
If you installed a different version, uninstall that first and then try this one instead.

mmcdonald21 · Post by **mmcdonald21** » Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:51 pm

Downloaded your Audacious pet, it installed and works! Thanks much.

mmcdonald21 · Post by **mmcdonald21** » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:21 am

Hi all,
Thank you for the ideas.

Still have not gotten to YASSM to work properly nor have I been able to get any of the SAMBA tools to work including findsmb. Have not been able to get ROX network access to work either

DOSBox, Web Browsers work flawlessly.

I will install SC15pup64 clean and start troubleshooting leaving out Wine which I think is causing issues behind the scenes.

At this point I am shifting back to Fossapup64 for my day to day driver which is working flawlessly. Not giving up on SC15pup64 just cant roll it out till I figure out why so many things don't work on this laptop.

Thanks for all your help!

Clarity · Post by **Clarity** » Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:12 am

Hello @mmcdonald21

Is the SC15..., you mention, being created via WoofCE or from a remaster of S15... from @peebee?

Curious

mmcdonald21 · Post by **mmcdonald21** » Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:14 am

The SC15pup64 is the iso on https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/

Using findsmb returns:

findsmb

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                            *=DMB
                            +=LMB

IP ADDR NETBIOS NAME WORKGROUP/OS/VERSION

I finally remembered mount command: mount -t cifs -o vers=1.0 /ip/share /mnt/wd
which works so I have access to the 12TB NTFS drive.

Fossapup64 YASSM 4.7 and Bionicpup64 YASSM 2.7 find the shares every time. Something is missing in SC15pup but my skills are not sufficient to determine what is needed.

thanks to all!

Clarity · Post by **Clarity** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:14 am

mmcdonald21 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:14 am
The SC15pup64 is the iso on https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/ ...

This is the latest WoofCE ISO, from the S15Pup64 author, where those problems do not exist. It is dated 24-02-23 and is here. <=== click
For me, SAMBA, findsmb, and mounts work as expected.

Does this clears the problems?

Clarity · Post by **Clarity** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:17 am

@peebee is there a Conky for this Slackware variant you can recommend? How to get it?

peebee · Post by **peebee** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:14 am

Clarity wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:17 am
@peebee is there a Conky for this Slackware variant you can recommend? How to get it?

Maybe:
https://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/p ... x86_64.pet
??

Clarity · Post by **Clarity** » Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:39 am

Help, please.

This may have been answered before, but I cannot determine where in the PUP Control Panel that I can use to set the tray-taskbar? I need to add more virtual desktop than the OOTB 3, and to control hide/no-hide feature.

Also need to install BTOP and TLDR...not found in package-manager

Curious

Edit: I just found a BTOP PET from January. Dont remember where it was gotten. And "findsmb" is working in this ISO v0413

one · Post by **one** » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:22 pm

Clarity wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:39 am
Help, please.

This may have been answered before, but I cannot determine where in the PUP Control Panel that I can use to set the tray-taskbar? I need to add more virtual desktop than the OOTB 3, and to control hide/no-hide feature.
[...]

Hi @Clarity,

go to Applications>Desktop>pTheme>Tray preset. Click the "More"-button --> Tray Configuration will be loaded --> there you can "Setup Tray 1 and 2" and also add more "Desktops".

peace

amethyst · Post by **amethyst** » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:02 am

I'm using the 32-bit version on my old desktop, very stable. I do not want to run the browsers peebee provides as "spot" so this is the command I use to run Chromium otherwise (may be useful for some):

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/opt/chromium/chromium --no-sandbox --user-data-dir=/initrd/mnt/dev_save/bionic/chromium/user --disk-cache-dir=/initrd/mnt/dev_save/bionic/chromium/cache --disk-cache-size=10000000 --media-cache-size=10000000

Note that I've added paths for the browser profile and cache, as well as the size of the cache which is handy. Change the paths and cache size according to your preferences.

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