EasyOS Kirkstone-series version 5.2.3

[BarryK]

If I select any of the entries (then press Install) in the 'Other' tab of Appi, it complains that no app was selected then aborts. Not found the same behaviour in the other categories.

That's a known bug, that was fixed.
Oh, but I just checked, it isn't fixed. I did fix it, but forgot to put the fix into woofQ.

Ok, open /usr/local/appimage/appimage
On line 211, append a space then "$TREEother" -- with the double-quotes

This time, making sure definitely fixed.

[BarryK]

Just built a new external USB ssd with the 5.2.1 for my Asus all-in-one with a RYZEN 7 (amd5700U with radeon 1800 graphics) touchscreen and wireless keyboard/mouse, but it has two problems as show stoppers to start with.
1- it won't allow any keypress when booted to the initial menu, it just sits there until it times out and proceeds.
2- it always drops out and fails when xwin attempts to start. Even if I use xorgwizard and any of the selections (at least the mouse/keyboard is alive in the menu screen here) the alternatives all fail.

Any sugestions appreciated

Easy 5.x is still using the 5.15.x Linux kernel. I'm wondering if that could be a factor.

Toward the end of this year, or maybe early 2024, if WW3 hasn't started, I'm planning on buying a new laptop, so that will be good to test with Easy, and will probably then have to bump to a more recent kernel.
But I'm intending to stay with Intel CPUs. Hoping to get the 14th gen chips.

The kernel settings for this chipset have been included since 5.11 apparently and from what i can read in your config file yours has the settings corretly set.
I've managed to capture and keep xerrs.log and xorg.0.log, attached, either it looks like something is missing or one of your config files need work.

/etc/X11/xorg.conf has this:

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Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
	#HorizSync    35-81 #monitor0horizsync
	VertRefresh  59-76
	#UseModes     "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
	Option      "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" #monitor0prefmode
EndSection

Comment-out the VertRefresh limits, see if that fixes it.

[BarryK]

Re: Appi problem.
The problem seems to be, that /tmp/pup_event_backend/network_ does not reflect the network status but is an empty file.
I can overcome the problem by writing to the file, say 'wlan0' , but ANYTHING will do.
The Appimage Installer will then work.

However, 'fixing' /tmp/pup_event_backend/network_ in this way has also the unintended consequence of the tray network icon becoming 'fixed' too; the icon will not change when the network is disconnected.

Finding the 'fix' is a bit of an 'ahaa..' moment for me.
I have been running Easy_Buster since it's release and have noticed from the beginning, that the network tray icon was not working properly (it did not bother me too much).
I have just checked: Easy_Buster /tmp/pup_event_backend/network_ is an empty file too.
Fixing THAT problem, has to be by someone more knowledgeable. (I assume that it is not something that occurs on my system only)
Cheers
proebler

I don't know why that network_ file is empty in your case.
I will change how Internet test is done in the script, maybe use 'ping'.
For now though, a quick fix for you is just comment-out all these lines (at line 409) in /usr/local/appimage/appimage:

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##need internet connection...
#if [ ! -s /tmp/pup_event_backend/network_ ];then
# M5="$(gettext 'An Internet connection is required to download an AppImage.')"
# popup "terminate=ok background=#ff8080 level=top process=wait|<big>${M5}</big>"
# exec appimage
#fi

One thing I'm curious about, try this:

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# getlocalip
lo: 127.0.0.1
wlan1: 192.168.43.115
# 

...that's what I get. That is the IP address assigned to wlan1 by the dhcp server in my router.
That's another way of testing there is a network connection.

[Jinx]

/etc/X11/xorg.conf has this:

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Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
	#HorizSync    35-81 #monitor0horizsync
	VertRefresh  59-76
	#UseModes     "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
	Option      "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" #monitor0prefmode
EndSection

Comment-out the VertRefresh limits, see if that fixes it.

Thanks! I've never been able to start xwin on any recent version of EasyOS on my Lenovo with a Ryzen3. This fixed EasyOS 5.2.1 for me.

For others. "Tweak" after xorgwizard fails opens a command line editor for /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ctrl-a opens a menu to save the changes.

[proebler]

One thing I'm curious about, try this:

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# getlocalip
lo: 127.0.0.1
wlan1: 192.168.43.115
# 

...that's what I get. That is the IP address assigned to wlan1 by the dhcp server in my router.
That's another way of testing there is a network connection.

Here I have

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lo: 127.0.0.1
wlan0: 10.1.1.228

[FeodorF]

One thing I'm curious about, try this:

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# getlocalip
lo: 127.0.0.1
wlan1: 192.168.43.115
# 

...that's what I get. That is the IP address assigned to wlan1 by the dhcp server in my router.
That's another way of testing there is a network connection.

Here I have

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lo: 127.0.0.1
wlan0: 10.1.1.228

If you look up this IP address you'll find this:
https://www.speedguide.net/ip/10.1.1.228
10.1.1.228 - IP address is in private non-routable range. 10.1.1.228 - IP address is in a reserved range. Private IP Address Ranges Address ranges below are reserved by IANA for private intranets, and not routable to the Internet. For additional information, see RFC 1918.
as well as this:
https://www.ipaddress.com/ipv4/10.1.1.228
10.1.1.228 belongs to the private IP address space 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 ( 10.0.0.0/8 ). A private IP address is, in contrast to a public IP address, not allocated to a specific organization, but can be used by anyone without approval from a regional Internet registry.

[FeodorF]

Hi @BarryK,

Kirkstone is missing 'hwclock -s --hctosys' in /root/Startup.
Otherwise the clock will be set to 'export TZ='XXX-23' after the reboot.

see: viewtopic.php?p=86538#p86538

Regards,
Feodor

[scsijon]

Easy 5.x is still using the 5.15.x Linux kernel. I'm wondering if that could be a factor.

Toward the end of this year, or maybe early 2024, if WW3 hasn't started, I'm planning on buying a new laptop, so that will be good to test with Easy, and will probably then have to bump to a more recent kernel.
But I'm intending to stay with Intel CPUs. Hoping to get the 14th gen chips.

The kernel settings for this chipset have been included since 5.11 apparently and from what i can read in your config file yours has the settings corretly set.
I've managed to capture and keep xerrs.log and xorg.0.log, attached, either it looks like something is missing or one of your config files need work.

/etc/X11/xorg.conf has this:

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Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
	#HorizSync    35-81 #monitor0horizsync
	VertRefresh  59-76
	#UseModes     "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
	Option      "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" #monitor0prefmode
EndSection

Comment-out the VertRefresh limits, see if that fixes it.

Apologies for the delay of reply, other things took precedence, unfortunately for me that didn't work, and with a rereading, it's erroring relating to "Screen0" so I shall do a bit more chaseing as itr doesn't seem to accept any of the standard listed screen matrixes, even the basic ones, which seems a little strange.

[tallboy]

Hi BarryK. I downloaded 5.2.1, but it does not have any norwegian location, or norwegian keyboard setup. I managed to open it with danish language and country, but please add the missing langages. The lists of countries and languages were very short.
The network would not connect, it could not see any wifi connections.
PC is a Dell Latitude E6400 laptop, USB stick is a slow 8 Gb SanDisk SDCZ33.

[BarryK]

Hi BarryK. I downloaded 5.2.1, but it does not have any norwegian location, or norwegian keyboard setup. I managed to open it with danish language and country, but please add the missing langages. The lists of countries and languages were very short.
The network would not connect, it could not see any wifi connections.
PC is a Dell Latitude E6400 laptop, USB stick is a slow 8 Gb SanDisk SDCZ33.

I left Norwegian out because it was confusing, with three different language codes; nb, nn and no.

Some applications have translation for just one of those.

I see that Xorg has /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/no, so should be able to choose Norwegian keyboard layout.
But, I see that QuickSetup is not offering that.

If you go to the menu "Setup -> Xorg Video Wizard -> Mouse/Keyboard Wizard -> Advanced Xorg keyboard configuration", you should be able to select 'no' layout.
I know that is very hidden away.

Regarding the selections at first bootup, I am reluctant to add those three different codes. Would it be ok just to add 'no'?

And then have translations for 'no', which I presume is the most common language in Norway.

Note, if you look at /lib/keymaps, there is 'no.gz'
That means there is a 'no' keyboard layout for early in the boot process, before Xorg starts.

Note also, I am just about to upload Easy 5.2.2, so a fix to support Norwegian will have to be in the next release.

The most common cause for wifi and bluetooth not working is missing firmware.

# dmesg > dmesg.log
# geany dmesg.log

...and look for any messages about missing formware or any other error about wifi.

[BarryK]

/etc/X11/xorg.conf has this:

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Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
	#HorizSync    35-81 #monitor0horizsync
	VertRefresh  59-76
	#UseModes     "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
	Option      "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" #monitor0prefmode
EndSection

Comment-out the VertRefresh limits, see if that fixes it.

Thanks! I've never been able to start xwin on any recent version of EasyOS on my Lenovo with a Ryzen3. This fixed EasyOS 5.2.1 for me.

For others. "Tweak" after xorgwizard fails opens a command line editor for /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ctrl-a opens a menu to save the changes.

I am trying this:

https://bkhome.org/news/202304/maybe-fi ... range.html

[BarryK]

EasyOS 5.2.2 released, see announcement and d/l link:

https://bkhome.org/news/202304/easyos-k ... eased.html

The big news of course, is the Flatpak Installer (Flapi).

Only a small collection so far. I need to test every one. Even though there are heaps of them at flathub.org, I have had issues with some. One of them aborted at startup, another just showed a blank window.
So yeah, I need to test before they go into Flapi.

If there is one that you would like to see included, let me know.

If you try one that is already in the Installer, and have trouble with it, let me know.

[tallboy]

Thank you, Barry. The 'no' is the default norwegian version. The 'nn' version was made by dialect fanatics, and for some reason they decided to use 'nb' for the normal langauge version, to separate it from the 'nn', instead of simply using 'no'. Yeah, I know!

[stemsee]

Hi Barry

would you mind posting your kernel config?

cheers
stemsee

[Keef]

EDITED post.
I first posted that gcc was now working - but spoke too soon. Did not test fully (barely, actually), and now find that I get "internal compiler error: Illegal instruction signal terminated program".
Previously it would spit out "illegal instruction" straight away, so there is a slight improvement

[BarryK]

EDITED post.
I first posted that gcc was now working - but spoke too soon. Did not test fully (barely, actually), and now find that I get "internal compiler error: Illegal instruction signal terminated program".
Previously it would spit out "illegal instruction" straight away, so there is a slight improvement

I presume that you started with a pristine 5.2.2, loaded the 'devx' sfs, then tested gcc.

I think that you said you have a i7 cpu. Do you have anymore information about it, like generation-number?

You could try a couple of long-shots:

1.
Click on "pkg", run 'PKGget' and click on 'pet-kirkstone' then 'ALL' radiobuttons, then click on "gcc" to install it.
gcc is already in the devx, but try this just in case. As I say, a very long shot.

If no joy, in PKGget click on the installed "gcc" to uninstall it.

2.
Then click on 'oe-kirkstone' radiobutton, scroll down and click on "gcc", install it. Test that.

[FeodorF]

Hi @BarryK,

the 'Pkg' icon has a typo with the German version. It comes with 'P' and 'p' at top of each other. The text to icon reads 'pkg' instead of 'Pkg'.

Regards,
Feodor

pkg-icon-error-pP.png (1.46 KiB) Viewed 1615 times

[BarryK]

Hi Barry

would you mind posting your kernel config?

cheers
stemsee

Its at /etc/modules in a running EasyOS.
Grabbing it, with false ".gz" appended, attached.

[hway212]

Hi Barry
Upgraded to 5.2.2 and looks good. Thanks
You asked if any Flappi packages requested and mine would be QGIS.
Going away for a few days so will test when I get back if you have time to try it and it works.
Regards
Chris

[BarryK]

There were a couple of posts awhile back, commenting on the rather long delay the first time SFSget is run.
Have now reduced that considerably:

https://bkhome.org/news/202304/pre-popu ... files.html

The way it works is the .png and .specs files are in the initrd, and at first bootup when the working-partition is populated, those files get copied across.

[Caramel]

Thanks BarryK for the continous improvement of EasyOS !

I've updated to version 5.2.2 and tested the installation of the flapak okular.
The space available on the working partition (command df -h) has shrunk by 2.1 Gb after the installation.
After deletion via Flapi, only 0.1 Gb was freed. Most of the runtimes in flatpak/runtime was not removed.

PS : Very small annoyance, after a update, the personal choices of default applications are lost.

[bugnaw333]

PS : Very small annoyance, after a update, the personal choices of default applications are lost.

same here.

[Jinx]

/etc/X11/xorg.conf has this:

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Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
	#HorizSync    35-81 #monitor0horizsync
	VertRefresh  59-76
	#UseModes     "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
	Option      "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" #monitor0prefmode
EndSection

Comment-out the VertRefresh limits, see if that fixes it.

Thanks! I've never been able to start xwin on any recent version of EasyOS on my Lenovo with a Ryzen3. This fixed EasyOS 5.2.1 for me.

For others. "Tweak" after xorgwizard fails opens a command line editor for /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ctrl-a opens a menu to save the changes.

I am trying this:

https://bkhome.org/news/202304/maybe-fi ... range.html

FatDog64 takes a more extreme approach - see viewtopic.php?p=86702#p86702 if it is any help.

Update:
VertRefresh 56-96 -> Fails
VertRefresh 25-125 -> Fails
Text on failure says "no screens found"

After commenting out VertRefresh okay again.

Xorgwizard says:
1920x1080
67.5 KHz
60.00 Hz
amdgpu

The amdgpu seems to load correctly as the boot text and background display
correctly for 1920x1080. This is an LCD display.

Update2:
Allowing both HorizSync and VertRefresh also works correctly:

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Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	HorizSync    50-83
	VertRefresh  56-96
	#UseModes     "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
	Option      "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" #monitor0prefmode
EndSection

[BarryK]

PS : Very small annoyance, after a update, the personal choices of default applications are lost.

same here.

@Caramel , @bugnaw333
Was it the choice of browser that got lost?

Also, did you use Sc0ttman's "Default Applications Chooser" in the Setup menu?
That makes changes to the /usr/local/bin/default* scripts.

The "www" icon on the desktop runs /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser

[BarryK]

Thanks! I've never been able to start xwin on any recent version of EasyOS on my Lenovo with a Ryzen3. This fixed EasyOS 5.2.1 for me.

For others. "Tweak" after xorgwizard fails opens a command line editor for /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ctrl-a opens a menu to save the changes.

I am trying this:

https://bkhome.org/news/202304/maybe-fi ... range.html

FatDog64 takes a more extreme approach - see viewtopic.php?p=86702#p86702 if it is any help.

Update:
VertRefresh 56-96 -> Fails
VertRefresh 25-125 -> Fails
Text on failure says "no screens found"

After commenting out VertRefresh okay again.

Xorgwizard says:
1920x1080
67.5 KHz
60.00 Hz
amdgpu

The amdgpu seems to load correctly as the boot text and background display
correctly for 1920x1080. This is an LCD display.

Update2:
Allowing both HorizSync and VertRefresh also works correctly:

Code: Select all

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	HorizSync    50-83
	VertRefresh  56-96
	#UseModes     "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
	Option      "PreferredMode" "1920x1080" #monitor0prefmode
EndSection

Thanks for testing.
I've commented-out both HorizSync and VertRefresh. Hopefully that doesn't cause trouble for anyone.
Those restrictions were imposed back in the days of the CRT monitors, hopefully no longer needed.

[Caramel]

PS : Very small annoyance, after a update, the personal choices of default applications are lost.

same here.

@Caramel , @bugnaw333
Was it the choice of browser that got lost?

Also, did you use Sc0ttman's "Default Applications Chooser" in the Setup menu?
That makes changes to the /usr/local/bin/default* scripts.

The "www" icon on the desktop runs /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser

Firefox
I've used the application in the Configuration Menu to establish Firefox as default

[bugnaw333]

@BarryK
Firefox also and the items (appimages) below:
I placed them on the desktop by dragging from their location and after update they were gone.

[stemsee]

I've got kirkstone 5.2.2 installed on an sd card.

It's great!

thanks ...

[BarryK]

is something missing on my lime boot config because save doesn't work. Or if it does work then it's not booting with the recent save.

...are you referring to booting Android?
If so, I have no idea.

Limine bootloader problems, it is probably best to post an issue at their project site:

https://github.com/limine-bootloader/limine/issues

They also have a Discord discussion account.

[BarryK]

I have simplified when click on the "apps" desktop icon:

https://bkhome.org/news/202304/easyapps ... itten.html

Also intend to do same for the "setup" icon.