Re your blog> easy.sfs internationalized, langpack PETs abandoned.
Can you add both Japanese and Hangugeo (South Korean) please, I know of a 'few' users of easyos in both of those countries that use it.
Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
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Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
Re: Languages in kirkstone
BarryK wrote:I was considering shipping EasyOS with a 'nls.sfs' file with all translations, so a kind of "super langpack". You would download this separately and include it in the SFS layers and hence have translations. However, there are many complications with that approach, so decided to go for simplicity; all translations builtin to easy.sfs.
Fatdog64 uses a international language SFS and it works well.
https://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/sfs/8 ... ls_813.sfs
It adds Chinese and other Asian languages.
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Re: Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
Those people in Japan and South Korea would be using the English UI. Ditto, there is at least one EasyOS user in India, who is proficient in English and uses the English UI.
What those people mostly want is suitable truetype fonts loaded to display in their language when browsing or viewing/editing documents.
But yes, to reach a wider audience in the Asian countries, it will be better have have translated UIs.
I have setup woofQ so that it builds a "nls-<version>.sfs", with every translation that can be found, so that option is still there.
I think will stay with the cutdown translations builtin to easy.sfs, fully explore that format, maybe later have a go at a separate nls*sfs
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Re: Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
@icake is doing great work on translating builds and language packs for chinese users
https://sourceforge.net/projects/icakec ... guagepets/
Re: Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
Shinobar made a Japanese language pack for Ubuntu Lucid that is 13 megs.
Perhaps it contains other Asian fonts???
https://sakurapup.com/puppylinux/quicks ... pq-0.5.pet
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icake made Chinese language pets
https://sourceforge.net/projects/icakec ... uage-Pets/
The easy dunfell version is bigger than normal ---> 7.3 megs
Maybe it has some mo files???
https://sourceforge.net/projects/icakec ... t/download
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Re: Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
Note that simply adding the ttf fonts to a Puppy will only show a document correctly
and allow a word processor to input the characters. Barry demands more that that.
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Re: Languages in kirkstone
don570 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:45 pmBarryK wrote:I was considering shipping EasyOS with a 'nls.sfs' file with all translations, so a kind of "super langpack". You would download this separately and include it in the SFS layers and hence have translations. However, there are many complications with that approach, so decided to go for simplicity; all translations builtin to easy.sfs.
Fatdog64 uses a international language SFS and it works well.
https://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/sfs/8 ... ls_813.sfsIt adds Chinese and other Asian languages.
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I looked at that sfs, curious that it is so small, so downloaded it and looked inside.
My nls sfs is 189MB, the fatdog one is 90.7MB. Mine has zstd compression, fatdog is xz compression.
xz will achieve a slightly smaller size.
But the main reason the fatdog sfs is small is that it is very cutdown.
Libreoffice has a huge number of translations, but fatdog has cut it down to only de es fr it pl.
The .mo files in /usr/share/locale are also pretty cutdown.
Re: Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
BarryK wrote:fatdog has cut it down to only de es fr it pl
I was using fatdog64 last night to make translations for my alarm program - ptmtimer
and there seemed to be lots of mo files for the common languages such as Russian and simplified Chinese.
It actually made the menus hard to use because I don't know these languages (especially Rox Filer!!). Momanager is fortunately all English.
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Re: Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
don570 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:42 pmBarryK wrote:fatdog has cut it down to only de es fr it pl
I was using fatdog64 last night to make translations for my alarm program - ptmtimer
and there seemed to be lots of mo files for the common languages such as Russian and simplified Chinese.
It actually made the menus hard to use because I don't know these languages (especially Rox Filer!!). Momanager is fortunately all English.
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I saw your bug report about momanager in fatdog:
I have been very intensely editing momanager in easyOS, and have discovered lots of bugs.
The one you have reported, momanager in easyOS likely has the same problem. I have added it to the to-do list.
Re: Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
The one you have reported, momanager in easyOS likely has the same problem.
I have done translations in Easy OS and Momanager seemed OK.
I'll check again and report back.
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momanager versions - older is better
BarryK wrote:I saw your bug report about momanager in fatdog:
viewtopic.php?t=8033
I have been very intensely editing momanager in easyOS, and have discovered lots of bugs.
The one you have reported, momanager in easyOS likely has the same problem. I have added it to the to-do list.
I did a check of the two versions of momanager in Easy OS and I found that
1) new version (momanager) has the same problem I spotted in fatdog64
2) old version (momanager0) works well!!
I reported this on fatdog64 page as well --->
viewtopic.php?p=81549#p81549
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The big problem with Easy OS 4.5.5 and 4.5.4 is the bad wacom graphics driver.
I reported this
viewtopic.php?p=79827#p79827
Note that in Easy OS 4.5.3 I didn't have any problem using my tablet so something strange creeped in .
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Re: Need Japanese and S.Korean languages in kirkstone
I have been posting to my blog recently, major changes to momanager for the upcoming Kirkstone-series.
I have used the old momanager0 as the basis. The "new" momanager may have lots more features, but I wanted to hack on code that I understood.
I wrote the original momanager0, L18L made some contributions to it. Then later on L18L and some other guys took over maintenance and added lots more features to it, and that's what we call the "new" momanager and that's the one in the pups.