How to use Fossapup64?

[r96chase]

Long story short, I couldn't get Fossapup64 last time because I didn't how to run it through a text-based grub or something I can't remember. I tried running it again, and it kept running me to a some grub issue.

How do I get through it? Do I type

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run fossapup64 9.5

or something?

What do you guys think?

Sincerely,
Chase E., an admin of the Puppy Linux Discord server, who still uses Bionicpup64 even though I feel like I need to upgrade.

[bigpup]

You need to do a live install to a USB or burn the iso image to a CD/DVD and use it to boot the computer.

There are several USB installer programs:
viewtopic.php?f=156&t=157

Any CD/DVD burning program can do a iso image burn to a CD/DVD.

Both methods will end up with a bunch of Fossapup64 9.5 files on the USB or CD/DVD.

Can do a frugal install to USB or internal drive and setup a boot loader to boot it.
Use this program, running in Puppy Linux, to do it.
http://www.fishprogs.software/puppy/fru ... index.html

Are you trying to boot just using the Fossapup64 9.5 iso?
This is how to do that, maybe:
viewtopic.php?p=1894#p1894

[williams2]

I copied vmlinuz and initrd.gz to the usb drive that I boot Bionicpup64 from.
I renamed the files vmlinuzf and initrdf.gz.

I edited the file syslinux.cfg on the usb flash drive.
I copied the section for BionicPup64;

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#bionic 8.0
label b8
kernel vmlinuzb8
append initrd=initrdb8.gz pupsfs=sda4 pfix=ram

and changed it to:

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#foss9
label f
kernel vmlinuzf
append initrd=initrdf.gz pupsfs=sda4 pfix=ram

Then I copied puppy_fossapup64_9.5.sf and adrv_fossapup64_9.5.sfs and zdrv_fossapup64_9.5.sfs to my hard drive.
Copying those 5 files completely installs FossaPup. I did not need to install a boot loader, the boot loader that boots Bionicpup is already installed.
I renamed adrv_fossapup64_9.5.sfs to ydrv_fossapup64_9.5.sfs because I wanted the file adrv_fossapup64_9.5.sfs instead of a save file.

So to boot BionicPup64 8.0 I plug in the usb flash drive, boot it, and type b8 (actually, I just press enter, because I have b8 set as the default.)
To boot FossaPup, I just boot the usb drive and type f.

In other words, to completely install Fossapup, I copied 5 files.

[r96chase]

@williams2 Does this work with any sort of FAT32-formatted USB drive? It does sound crazy enough to work, but I want to be able to create a pupsave after booting it up. Forgive me for feeling suspicious, but what's the catch?

[bigpup]

Do you not understand what I posted?
Those are the normal ways to do it!

[r96chase]

@bigpup Yes I do, actually. My apologies. I should've tried StickPup on BionicPup64, which I did. It worked, but now...I'm not sure what to do next.
I'll probably figure it out soon, but let's say that I'm not sure how to frugal install Fossapup64...yet.

Again, my sincerest apologies for beating around the bush.

[bigpup]

Need some info

Are you saying you have Fossapup64 9.5 installed on a USB stick and have been able to boot with it?
If yes.

What do you want to install Fosssapup frugal install on?
If the computers internal hard drive.

Need to know what other operating system is going to also be on this internal drive?
Windows?
Puppy Linux?
Other Linux OS's?

What is the computer?
Make and model?

[r96chase]

@bigpup

I was able to boot Fossapup, yes. My make and model of my computer is a Lenovo ThinkPad X140e.
The only other OS on it is Debian. Specifically a 32-bit thing from the Raspberry Pi website...and it's basically Debian x86 with a Raspberry Pi Desktop.

...actually I do have a BionicPup64 save on it too. I almost forgot about that.

But anyway, yeah, I am trying to install it on to the internal hard drive...basically.

The USB drive I'm trying to use for a FossaPup installation is a SanDisk Cruzer Fit 64GB.

Does that help? I really hope so.

[williams2]

Does this work with any sort of FAT32-formatted USB drive?

A frugal install of Puppy is basically copying vmlinuz (the kernel) and initrd.gz (the initial ram drive, basically a little Linux that gets copied to ram) and the sfs files (the Puppy files compressed in a squash file system.

That really is all there is to it. For Fossapup, that would be 5 files. They are just files that can be copied, moved, deleted, zipped, like any other ordinary files. Whether you copy the files yourself or a Puppy installer program copies the file doesn't make much difference, as long as the files get copied.

You need to start Puppy with a boot loader, but you already have a boot loader installed to start BionicPup.
So you do not need to install it again. You can just add a FossaPup selection to the boot loader configuration file.
My usb flash drive is an old one, with maybe 8 or 10 Pups on it. I suspect the old syslinux boot loader on it does not understand gpt partition tables, but it doesn't matter, It boots from the usb drive and finds vmlinuz and initrd.gz on the usb drive. The Linux in the initrd.gz does understand gpt, so it can find the sfs files.

My usb flash drive is formatted FAT32.

I have Secureboot disabled and Legacyboot enabled.

To install Puppy you just need to copy/paste 4 or 5 files.
If you already have a boot loader installed, you can just copy/paste a few lines in the configuration text file to add a new choice when the boot loader executes.

[r96chase]

@williams2 Thanks for trying to help, but I might just stick with a pupsave in the same USB as the boot stuff. I've realized that I can switch back and forth between BionicPup64 and FossaPup64 using USBs anyway.

Again, I want to thank you as well as everybody here and I do apologize for the trouble I might've caused by overthinking.

[r96chase]

So, I just tried the SG2D thing and it worked wonderful. Thank you for the recommendation, @bigpup!

Anyway I'm able to use FossaPup64 with little to no trouble now.
Thank you all so very much. <3

[Feek]

Then I copied puppy_fossapup64_9.5.sf and adrv_fossapup64_9.5.sfs and zdrv_fossapup64_9.5.sfs to my hard drive.
Copying those 5 files completely installs FossaPup. I did not need to install a boot loader, the boot loader that boots Bionicpup is already installed.

Thanks for this information. I had Bionicpup64 installed on a usb stick through its universal installer. The extlinux boot loader was created during installation. I tried to replace the Bionicpup64's files with Fatdog64's files without reinstalling the boot loader. I also set parameters for multisession mode in the extlinux.conf file. It works great.

bye