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Is there a password for spot? It’s not woofwoof in 9.5
I only ask for Chromium downloads. Before they can install from the default download directly, it asks for the spot password. A work around is just to move the download file, but that’s not answering my question. I’ve tried to delete the spot password, change it and enter it. But nope.
Any ideas? Or have I just missed the simplest of things?
Spot does not have a password.
Are you using Rox file manager?
Rox file manager is the only file manager that knows how to use stuff from the /root/spot directory.
Other file managers are confused thinking spot is a normal user.
They do not understand it is still the administrator using a restricted directory.
All spot does is make a web browser limited to what locations in the file system it can write and download to.
Only the spot directory.
Also run-as-spot tricks a browser into think it is not running as root.
It thinks spot is not root user, when it is root, but restricting what file sytem locations the browser can access for downloads.
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The things you do not tell us, are usually the clue to fixing the problem.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be older.
This is not what I expected 
User 'spot' is in Fossapup64 in some ways, structured as a user would be in Ubuntu for better compatibility and now /root/spot is a symlink to /home/spot.
Simply make new password for spot, which you can, you're root
In a terminal set the new password for user 'spot'
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passwd spotThe readme in the spot directory. However, this seems to not be good info for Fossapup64 9.5.
I tried the commands and get errors.
"spot" is a restricted user of Puppy.
(you could also add finn, rover, rex!)/home/spot is spot's home directory.
To change from root to user spot, type this:
su spot
cd ~Or, do this:
su --login spot
Note that spot has been setup to not require a password.
You can confirm that you are indeed now spot:
whoami
When you have finished being spot, type this:
exit
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User "spot" is currently used in Puppy by DidiWiki.
See the script /usr/sbin/didiwiki-gui, which is run from
the window manager menu, in "Information managers" submenu.
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The things you do not tell us, are usually the clue to fixing the problem.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be older.
This is not what I expected
I can confirm that by using Rox filer I was able to get mine updated. I did have to manually uninstall the prior version to do so though. When I tried to just update it, a message noted that.
I simply uninstalled with pmm and found the installer with Rox. I was pleased that the accounts I had created were still there when I reinstalled too.
Running Fossa64 9.5 Multiple PC's Frugal Installs on EXT4 hard drives. Multiple Frugals per PC too.
The readme in the spot directory. However, this seems to not be good info for Fossapup64 9.5.
I tried the commands and get errors.
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# su spot
$ cd
$ pwd
/home/spot
$ whoami
spot
$ exit
exit
# whoami
root
# grep DISTRO_NAME /etc/DISTRO_SPECS
DISTRO_NAME='fossapup64'
#Other file managers are confused thinking spot is a normal user.
They do not understand it is still the administrator using a restricted directory.
All spot does is make a web browser limited to what locations in the file system it can write and download to.
Only the spot directory.Also run-as-spot tricks a browser into think it is not running as root.
It thinks spot is not root user, when it is root, but restricting what file sytem locations the browser can access for downloads.
spot is an unprivlidged user, the same as the unprivlidged users in any Linux os.
spot is not root.
spot was created using the same commands that the other os's used, adduser and passwd.
spot is a restricted, unprivlidged user and anything that is run by user spot will have the same restrictions as spot.
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# su spot
$ cd
$ cat /etc/shadow
cat: /etc/shadow: Permission denied
$One thing that spot can not do, that the unpriviledged users of other Linux os's can do, is that spot can not become root, and that spot can not run anything as root using sudo. spot is more restricted than other Linux os's normal user. OK, that's 2 things.
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# su spot
$ cd
$ su
su: must be suid to work properly
$The Puppy operating system IS running as root, underneath spot. But other Linux os's are also doing that. Their runlevel 0 is running as root.
PS when you are asked for spot's password, it's because something is trying to use sudo to run something as root.
you are kind of proving my point.
I am not going to get into all the specifics of spot.
just changing to spot does nothing for you.
The spot operations are controlled by specific exec script files.
go look at run-as-spot and setup-spot script files.
spot operation has changed over the years.
So, version of Puppy can affect how spot works.
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The things you do not tell us, are usually the clue to fixing the problem.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be older.
This is not what I expected
I do not know the password for spot but here is how I installed Google Chrome on fossapup.
1. Download the .deb file from google chrome's download site.
2. This typically gets downloaded to /home/spot/Downloads folder. Don't bother trying to install by clicking on the browser download option, it will just ask for password and annoy you
3. Note that spot runs with limited privileges so, move this file out of this folder onto /tmp
4. chmod 755 <file-name.deb>. The default permissions don't allow you to run
5. Rename the file to avoid collisions. If you have installed a .deb with the same name earlier, the installer will complain
5. whoami. If spot, exit to root
6. ./<file-name.deb>
7. enjoy