Puppy Package Manager won't start in Fossapup 9.5

[jarnie]

Since fixing a problem (nVidia graphics card would not display desktop) I now find that when I select Install>Install Applications>Puppy Package Manager there is a display on the desktop screen 'Loading Puppy Package Manager....' and it never opens. How do I fix it to work?

Also although I set Firefox (internally) as my default web browser, Pale Moon keeps starting and prompting me do I want to make it my default web browser. What is the fix for that?

Lastly is there a method to permanently increase the icon and text size on the workbench (or should I be calling it the pinboard)?

Thanks

[s243a]

try the following command in the console:

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dotpup1

tell us if you get any errors in the console.

[Eastler_Dart]

::::::::::::Since fixing a problem (nVidia graphics card would not display desktop) I now find that when I select Install>Install Applications>Puppy Package Manager there is a display on the desktop screen 'Loading Puppy Package Manager....' and it never opens. How do I fix it to work?
>>>>> go in a Terminal, type /usr/local/petget/pkg_chooser.sh [and Enter]
if Your Puppy is like mine, then the PackageManaer will start, and echoes probs in the Terminal. These give you a hint, where the problem is.

::::::::::::Also although I set Firefox (internally) as my default web browser, Pale Moon keeps starting and prompting me do I want to make it my default web browser. What is the fix for that?
>>>>>>> open /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser in Geany/Texteditor, the content seems to be Pale moon to start, change it to the binary of FF to start
(type in Console 'which firefox', that would show you, where firefox-binary is, and that Answer is, what should be in defaultbrowser
--in my Puppy there is also /usr/local/bin/defaulthtmlviewer, because I don't have a special "Viewer", I have the same command as in defaultbrowser in it.

::::::::::::Lastly is there a method to permanently increase the icon and text size on the workbench (or should I be calling it the pinboard)?
>>>>>>>>> yes, it is the pinboard . /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/Options holds all your options of the pinboart, but to change something, you easyly open a Filemanagerwindow (that is also Rox), for example click the root or files icon on desktop, in the opended Window rightclick on a file, choose 'options' -> you are, where Rox can be configurated. In the left list klick pinboard, the right side changes, you should find a button for Font. Click it, there you can change the size of the font.

hope it helps

[puddlemoon]

Hi,
When you say workbench, do you mean the panel at the bottom or the desktop icons?

There is a dialog to choose the default browser in Menu>>Default applications chooser.

Sometimes that happens to me with the package manager. never looked into why but I just start it again and it often works.
If not you could try to kill it by look in the task manager, Menu>>System>>Pprocess, look for "gtkdialog" and or "pkg_chooser.sh"
Also can be found with "htop" in console. will be called "gtkdialog -p PPM_GUI"
The little white box announcing the startup is called yaf-splash in Pprocess, if that gets stuck and annoys...

[Grey]

I struggle with this intermittent glitch almost exactly as puddlemoon did. But I kill yaf-splash process and restart PPM.

[bigpup]

Tell us the exact Puppy version????
Yes it makes a difference!!!
We always need to know this to give you specific ways to fix it!!!

Hopefully the general info given by others will work!

[jarnie]

try the following command in the console:

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dotpup1

tell us if you get any errors in the console.

No errors displayed in the console but entering dotpup1 only displays the 'install to some other media' in PPM - ie does not have the two tabs to select from.

Tell us the exact Puppy version????

I am using Fossapup Version: 9.5

Same problem if I boot from the usb stick or the DVD.

I can only think that these 'problems' are caused by the settings in my BIOS as the file data on the bootable DVD could not change.
But how can the BIOS settings change without me doing it (PPM worked earlier)? It's annoying.

>>>>> go in a Terminal, type /usr/local/petget/pkg_chooser.sh [and Enter]

Being a newbie not sure what is meant by 'go in a Terminal' and 'hitting' the HELP icon did not tell me so I thought it could be via the 'console' so I entered "/usr/local/petget/pkg_chooser.sh" (without quotes of course" and the following was displayed -
[xcb]Unknown sequence number while processing reply
[xcb]Most like this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called

When I refer to the 'desktop' I mean the entire screen with all the icons which is displayed when Fossapup completes loading. When I search the internet I find the following -
Puppy Linux 9.5 is using the lightweight JWM (Joe’s Window Manager) window manager as default desktop interface with the Rox Filer file manager, Claws Mail email client, Abiword word processor, Palemoon web browser,......
Anyway I see that Eastler_Dart calls it the pinboard so that is what I will call it from now on (and tell my brother in law

>>>>>>>>> yes, it is the pinboard . /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/Options holds all your options of the pinboar

Also how to change pinboard preferences.

[mikewalsh]

@jarnie :-

The 'PPM not starting' issue isn't just peculiar to Fossapup, believe me; it's been making an intermittent appearance in most Pups produced over the last 5-6 years. I'm certainly not blaming mavrothal, but I have a sneaking suspicion this dates all the way back to the early development versions of the PPMv2.....and through all the subsequent revisions, still got 'overlooked'. As stated above, though, a second attempt at starting the PPM usually does the trick.

As for setting the browser as default from within the browser's own settings page? It's never worked, not in all the years I've been using Puppy. Something to do, so I believe, with Pup's implementation of the 'xdg-open' protocols. It's far simpler just to type the full $PATH to your browser's executable in the Default Applications Chooser. Either that, or go to /usr/local/bin and just edit the defaultbrowser text file directly.....these are what are produced by the Default Applications Chooser anyway.

Re-boot to get it into the 'save', and you should be away.

Mike.

[TerryH]

In reference to what people are referring to here Terminal = Console. Just users using differing terminology.

In a terminal type ppm then hit 'Enter' Key.

Puppy Package Manager should either run or should return an error. Report your results.

[jarnie]

Re-boot to get it into the 'save', and you should be away.

Mike.

Thanks MIke.
Do I understand that you cannot 'save' unless you re-boot?

a second attempt at starting the PPM usually does the trick.
Voila! Eureka! or whatever. In other words YES this works.

In a terminal type ppm then hit 'Enter' Key.

Puppy Package Manager should either run or should return an error. Report your results.

The first time it results in the error messages mentioned at the start of this thread.
Second time starts PPM in the second 'tab' (other software).

John

[jarnie]

I meant to also state that although I can get PPM started the second time via the 'terminal' the display on the pinboard " Loading Puppy Package Manager...." remains on the pinboard.

Also if attempting to start PPM from 'terminal' I can enter PPM (and press enter key) repeatedly without it starting. The ONLY way is to either select INSTALL and then enter PPM in the 'terminal' OR enter PPM in the 'terminal and then select INSTALL. No hassle just reporting.

[puddlemoon]

Hi
so it was mentioned before but easy to miss i guess when it's all happening at once.
The small box announcing "Loading Puppy Package Manager" is called yaf-splash. You can find it in Menu>>System>>Pprocess or kill it with "killall -9 yaf-splash"
you can start ppm from terminal with "/usr/local/petget/pkg_chooser.sh" or from Menu>>setup

[jarnie]

Thanks puddlemoon
So much information in such a short time (I have some other threads) to read and digest.