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HarveyH

I was looking at the info for the 4.6 beta version and saw this: Improve revoked UEFI bootloaders check to support Linux SBAT, Windows SVN and cert DBX I have a secure boot system with "The update that killed Ventoy" and this line interested me, so I tried the beta. Bookwormpup64 ... kinda works. It ...

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@wiak

That wasn't pride. It was self-depreciation.

HarveyH

Yes, it says so on YUMI website: LMAO. Dude thinks I read the docs. YUMI exFAT utilizes a bootloader based on Ventoy2Disk along with a custom YUMI theme and configuration enabling you to use advanced Ventoy boot methods with YUMI's helpful front end. Making it easy to find new distributions to ...

HarveyH

The reason there could be a difficulty is that Ubuntu grub EFI files may only be the start of the trust chain involved - if a signed Ubuntu kernel is needed then some of my distros will not boot. In practice that chain of trust can sometimes just be up to grub finding vmlinuz, but could be much ...

HarveyH

I'll be dipped. After looking around, I see that Yumi is Ventoy 1.0.99 all pimped out. It *is* Ventoy. I downloaded the ventoy 1.0.99 zip file and put all the stuff into the ventoy folder in YUMI. Nothing got overridden since all that's in there now is th Yumi theme and the json file. YUMI is a ...

HarveyH

If you don't like Ventoy, YUMI has Ventoy under the hood and can do some cool tricks. You still need to do the "Ventoy Hack" though.

https://pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/

UPDATE: It has Ventoy under the hood because it *is* Ventoy. lol See my post below

HarveyH

Final post or not prior to new one... did you try any of this since using Secure Boot? https://www.ventoy.net/en/doc_secure.html which is about enrolling Ventoy shim into MOK I believe Well, yes of course. That's how I got Ventoy to boot long before the Windows update. The problem is that *after ...

HarveyH

nilsonmorales wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:08 pm
Hello and thank you, please can you share the boot ubuntu iso files here please.

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop

HarveyH

I found this on the Ventoy forum "Ventoy 1.0.99 is the final version, soon longpanda will release another version with many new features.' So, there you go. 1.0.99 is the final version (too bad) but there is a new version coming soon (Oh, good). This is my final post on the matter,. I will make more ...

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rockedge wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 1:41 pm
@HarveyH

Great find!! I think this topic/post should be more prominent and perhaps a topic in the How-To section and or make this topic sticky.

I reposted the basic info in the How-To/Boot section.

https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=12667

HarveyH

For those of you using Ventoy to get your puppies booted on a Secure Boot machine... The last Windows update added a feature for our "ease of use". It locks out all but modern updated recognized EFI files. In short, unless you are using a modern Debian or Ubuntu, you aint booting Linux on your ...

HarveyH

I'm curious if above workaround for Ventoy works also for puppy distros frugal installed to internal hard drive. My computer uses grub2 from full installed Linux Mint. Uh, Linux Mint is one of those Linuxes that still work fine. I cannot answer your question, but my guess is that the "evil" Windows ...

HarveyH

On a wild hunch, I tried replacing those 2 files on a Rufus-Created BookwormPup64 USB drive and for the first time ever IT GAVE ME A CHANCE TO ENROLL THE MOK key (the "cer" file, right?) It still didn't work. Keeps going back to the enroll the key part. Oh well, I did get a lot further than ever ...

HarveyH

Haha hoho and heehee. I DOOD IT! Ventoy (and Bookwormpup64) is working again even though I have the Window update that broke Ventoy. You are going to spaz when you see how easy it is to fix. No need to disable Secure Boot. 1) Get an ISO of the newest Ubuntu. Linux Mint doesn't have the mmx64.efi ...

HarveyH

Haha hoho and heehee. I DOOD IT! Ventoy (and Bookwormpup64) is working again even though I have the Window update that broke Ventoy. You are going to spaz when you see how easy it is to fix. No need to disable Secure Boot. 1) Get an ISO of the newest Ubuntu. Linux Mint doesn't have the mmx64.efi ...

HarveyH

I tried something sneaky. Seeing that (a Rufus-created) Mint *does* boot and the files are accessable, I did some surgery on the Rufus USB. I added Puppy in a folder and created a Grub entry for it. Did it work? Yes and no. The menu was there, but when I chose Puppy, it gave me that blue screen ...

HarveyH

I've been digging deeply into the Interwebs to find a fix for this. I mean Ventoy being rejected as a legitimate boot. IIUC, it seems that the "evil update" examines your system for some evidence that you dual-boot Linux (maybe in the UEFI?). If it sees none, it assumes that you will never use Linux ...

HarveyH

Add Knoppix 9.1 to the "working list", but that OS is so old you can't even sudo apt update. The repositories are gone. I give up for now. The original subject was "Ventoy" and that doesn't work in Secure Boot mode anymore. Perhaps the next version (1.1.0?) will. I *think* all they have to do is ...

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bigpup In theory, anything will boot with secure boot disabled and it is recommended by nearly every webpage I have seen. If you mean will it boot on my system with SB off, I will not disable it on the chance that I may bork Windows 11. There have been a few stories of disabling SB and Win11 never ...

HarveyH

I tried burning the new Linux Mint ISO right to a USB drive and it booted. Seems that not *all* dual-booting is blocked. I'm going to see if a Rufus-created USB boots. Results: Linux Mint: Burn ISO to flashdrive - Boots Use Rufus - Boots Bookwormpup64: Wont boot no matter what. Ventory; Wont boot no ...

HarveyH

Looking to see if the update gets patched from Microsoft. We shall see. People, if you don't get this problem then \O/. Just be warned that it *can* happen after a Windows update. rockedge I wouldn't bet money on MS "fixing" this. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this was done on purpose. They don ...

HarveyH

It seems you can also replace the shim with one from another package and then rename stuff and reinstall MOK keys and ... A lot of trouble, but safer than turning off secure boot. I didn't try it.

HarveyH

I went to try it and discovered that the latest Windows update locks the system to only boot Windows.......... This is a nightmare come true. This is using UEFI and secure boot on a machine dual booting Windows 11 and other OS's like Puppy Linux and now no dual booting at all? Not even via USB ...

HarveyH

Ventoy actually has an inbuilt option for booting normal frugal installs, I went to try it and discovered that the latest Windows update locks the system to only boot Windows. Ventoy (and Linuxes I'd assume) now pop up a system warning about bad shims and "something went terribly wrong". Its a ...

HarveyH

> You'll be able to do all the things you do with any PUP pristine or otherwise. Which I can already do. >There is NO extractions of files from the ISO files. That defeats the purpose of a frual install; the ability to easily replace or add .sfs files without having to edit the ISO every single time ...

HarveyH

JusGellin @HarveyH Thanks. That is really impressive!! :thumbup: It works instantly - pretty cool. So I've run this and the pet versions successfully and easily. How would these update to a newer version in the future? Well, as you saw in the post, Dude said, "I just made this". My guess is that ...

HarveyH

Would you settle for a click-and-go AppImage version?
Check out this link. 2nd post.

viewtopic.php?t=12396

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mikewalsh wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:06 am
@HarveyH :-

You might like to try this one; I built it just 2 days ago.

You MADE it? How you do dat?

HarveyH

bigpup wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:15 pm
@HarveyH
Would be nice if you could provide download links.

Thanks for the topic!

Of course. I was hesitant to provide outside links as they *could* be malware and only a fool clicks on outside links in a forum post.

I edited the first post.

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