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I treated Wiak with respect. You don't even know what you deleted and you can't admit it. I won't be here soon and you can do whatever you want. That's fine, but I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Deleted what?! EDIT: Is it bigpup you are talking to or is it me? I certainly did n...

Sharing source code in forums works only in small, amateur projects that don't change much and have mostly one developer. Well, that depends on the overall build mechanism and strategy employed. For example, the FirstRib-based distro development method revolves around the creation of a single text ...

Clarity wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 5:23 pm
WoofCE has an advantage in that its generation can be done on GIT rather than on the local PC.

Indeed, though I believe that could be done (arranged) for any of the other scripted build systems.

Not being familer with how the different build scripts work, I wish to ask if building the initrd is scripted or needs special expertise and attention by the dev. for debian dog? Puppy? Easy? KL's? For FirstRib, yes, there is a build script for building the whole FR initrd. In practice that particu...

The next development build replaces most remaining uses of Xdialog and gtkdialog with yad. I've long also thought that that was the best way forward for Puppy Linux more generally. Gtkdialog is too big a burden to try and support into the future. Other small distros made similar decision to ditch g...

A build system that churns out clones of the same build have limited usefulness whether auto-done by github or run on local host system. Not many forum members I feel have the ability, or at least the knowledge, to alter the result produced by woof-CE. More important is how easy the build can be cha...

could the FirstRib developers make a script to produce a base iso that is usable as a working distro just jwm -rox xterm text editor - geany firefox media player image viewer - viewnior internet access so anyone could just run the script and build the iso and use it for basic tasks This could be do...

@rockedge By the way. If @bigpup does not explain within 24 hours what was offensive in my post , then I will leave you too. Maybe @wiak was offended by something there or something? @Grey I have no idea what the post said. I never read it or knew it even existed. I have other problems. ....does no...

One thing that I see is now always needed in a Puppy version is the Apt Package Manager. I have never understood this concept. I never saw anything wrong with the PPM idea of accessing packages that have been tested (or developed) by fellow Puppians. Does "Apt" have any understanding of t...

One thing that I see is now always needed in a Puppy version is the Apt Package Manager. That would imply a change concerning Puppy in that it was marketed as being multi-distro type. Apt means Debian-based, meaning Debian, Ubuntu, or Devuan; implying no Void, Arch, Slackware Pup instances. Underst...

By the way, a certain percentage of my acquaintances and friends do not trust developers who themselves do not use (all the time) the OS they develop or support. OK, let's soften the term a bit ;) ... It's not that they don't trust, but rather they are... wary. Ah good, I'm trusted then, since thou...

so let us all work together for the common good wanderer I am sure most people on this forum nowadays actually have that same view, but a couple of louder mouths make it seem otherwise. One trick these people have against me is to make out I'm FirstRib/KL centric only, which is a lot of nonsense. I...

If people here want up-to-date nice Puppy distros in the future then beware current state of 'official' woof-CE Puppy build system. That's really all I'm saying. I'm not at all myself advocating any KL or DebianDog as some kind of new pseudo Puppy - they are not that or trying to be that. Puppy is P...

i would like to start it by mentioning how impressed i am with fredx181s debiandog it is truly a masterpiece everyone should check it out i would also like wiak if he has the time to explain how his project works Alas, my family have been ripped off in a house build, which we now put all our effort...

Kennel Linux has never applied to be featured via Distrowatch, which limits outside knowledge of its existence to Puppy Forum visitors, most of whom presumably come here with only an interest in Puppy itself. Since FirstRib based distros have been usefully available since early 2019, with many power...

By todays standards, Puppy Linux remains a reasonably small distro, that continues to provide an impressive range of often small applications and utilities that provide a great deal of every day needed functionality. It is also simple to install, easy to maintain, and full of flexible features that...

This is unique to Puppy.

It isn't. I am pretty sure that is not even unique for the various other distros that have thread sections on this forum. Any distro that offers save from RAM persistence, only when user wants to, provides that useful characteristic. Check Slax, antiX and so on.

Hey, but, here is the problem... woof-CE does not itself, as a build system, reflect that elegance and simplicity.

Tons of people love playing with Puppy Linux. Very few 'love playing' with woof-CE.

By todays standards, Puppy Linux remains a reasonably small distro, that continues to provide an impressive range of often small applications and utilities that provide a great deal of every day needed functionality. It is also simple to install, easy to maintain, and full of flexible features that ...

If no-systemd is a true choice (not out of laziness or short on development skills, or whatever) it is ok IMHO. For example like Devuan is without systemd, it does have some limitations of course that you'll have to accept, or use something else, simple. Well, it is 'ok' of course, if that is thoug...

I like the elegant writing style mikeslr employed, but let's take that, try to pare it down, and fix a few details or ambiguities. For example, Puppy is nowadays primarily 'built' using an opensource build system called 'woofCE'. By the way, I don't myself think it is good idea, with the future and ...

@mikeslr Are all builds of PuppyLinux truly 100% binary compatible with their hosts? As some applications require systemd, this is not included. Yes, above is incorrect. In fact, Puppy is 'imperfect' in terms of upstream repo compatibility. Newer debian-based pups that can use apt/dpkg are closer t...

thanks for this great analysis of the pros and cons of ram use vs cpu use vs storage use i do believe that as wiak and others have pointed out "Having a relatively app complete implementation in smallish distro size, along with using own sysVinit based system scripts" is puppys main stren...

Certainly if someone chooses to run a distro from a cheap slow USB drive they may have issues and copying to RAM prove sometimes a workaround remedy. But all the distros discussed in their own thread areas of the forum can of course be run from RAM (set via an optional boot argument), and I'd be sur...

As I've been saying for several years, copying SFS files to RAM prior to their being mounted is generally nothing but a waste of RAM. In golden olden early 2000's hard drives were slow to read and write usually, so copying to RAM could in theory overcome that situation. However, back in these days m...

In terms of overall forum provision, I do myself think there is a problem if Puppy is only focussed on an apt/dpkg debian release in the future. It remains a fact that Debiandog provides a apt/dpkg frugal install distro FULLY debian compatible equally small and functional layered filesystem based di...

1. There is no kernel modules inside initrd. The initrd will do the layered root filesystem setup on boot. 2. The root filesystem was layered fs 3. Able to load savefile or savefolder 4. Able to load in full ram 5. the kernel modules must be in seperate sfs modules 6. Able to load/unload sfs module...

I believe the thread is about marketing a version of Puppy Linux, which is a distro in its own right. It would be a nonsense, in my opinion, to post info about a KL distro to Distrowatch pretending it is some new version of Puppy Linux. If anyone wants a Distrowatch 'presence' for any current KL var...

The original Puppy was not 'old technology' oriented, and neither should any distro marketed here focus on old technology except as an aside/option.

Does the mount -t overlay... mean the setup is for overlayfs? The reason I ask is when I look at the bootinit.log for BookwormPup64_10.0.6, it shows the same for its mounts. I thought that puppy linux was just using aufs. So is BookwormPup then using overlayfs? The first post is about loading añ sf...

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