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Glad I noticed this thread because I wondered about the different vanilla flavors (oxymoron punt not intended!).

After getting F96-CE_4 to work just the way I wanted and needed, with a fair bit of trial and error, I tried Bookworm64.
Bookworm64 was the first ever puppy that worked for me OOTB, and ...

mikewalsh

Yep - agree totally - no such thing as perfection. (256 bit AES encryption is pretty close until quantum computing becomes a practical reality).
I should know, having spend many years on this beast called RMA (Reliability Maintainability Availability).
My biggest (and last) software ...

So stick with the 5-series. I would.

Mike. ;)


Yes, nothing wrong with using K5 for F96-CE_4 and it has now become my new Puppy for financial type activities, as my browser needs are met and all is running very stable.
IMHO security wise:
Pros: security through obscurity, non persistence on ...

Oooh! Almost with ya, there; mine was a Commodore 64 .

Remind me, will ya? How much did the VIC-20 have? I remember 4 KB.....I think . Or was it 5 KB? Summat like that.

Mike. ;)


My Vic-20 had a staggering 5KB of RAM with 3.5KB free for doing great things. My employer had a mainframe with ...

rockedge

Probably showing my age here but my first "computer" was a Commodore VIC20. It came with a basic interpreter, and I wrote a program on it for sizing remote area solar power systems.
Upgraded that to an IBM clone with MSDOS on it. Was an early mouse adopter with my amiga 1000 (OS on 2 by ...

With BookwormPup and Vanilla Dpup, the GP108 firmwares associated with the Nvidia GT1030 are found and loaded to provide a functional nouveau driver.
When I compare the GP108 firmwares folder in their fdrv.sfs, I note that the firmwares set for F96-CE_4 C is incomplete, so I now get those dmesg ...

mikewalsh

Unless you're into gaming I don't think you are missing out on anything when using older PC's. My friend calls them "boat anchors".
I bought a current model laptop for my better half, loaded with win11 - to me the operational response is much the same for our application usages.
In fact ...

@AQUAR :-

I wouldn't have thought anything was "missing".
(I was thinking of getting one of these myself a few months back.
This is the newest driver for your GT1030.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/230357/
Mike. ;)


I just can't get a handle on why I don't get KMS with Nouveau ...

@AQUAR :-

I believe your card IS still currently supported, however.

For certain Pups where I use much newer kernels, I simply rebuild and let them use the nouveau driver instead. It's easier, because I can then upgrade kernels as & when I want!

Mike. ;)


So the K6 kernel that comes with the ...

rockedge dimkr mikewalsh

Thank you all for those generously informative responses, its so refreshing not to be told to RTFM.
I am starting to see the merit and complications of having this flexible linux kernel to create distro's on top of it, but with different target objectives (audience ...

Okay, so I spend a few weeks with F96-CE_4 to get it to work on my old desktop with an NVidia GT1030 pcie graphics card.

Eventually had to change to an earlier kernel to get KMS with Nouveau drivers (ended up using huge-5.4.86-slacko64 kernel).
Tried many kernel versions 6 plus from Rockedge's ...

mikewalsh

Appreciate the insight as to what I was looking for, and the udev rules method works great for me.
Very interesting approach, I see that it identifies the usb flash drive based on its in-bedded i/Manufacturer/Product/Serial fields.
Has to be more definitive than using its UUID ...

@AQUAR :-


Not the end though, as I have more to sort out (like UUID based mounting of the ext4 drive!).


When you say about 'UUID-based mounting', are you talking about a way to make sure your flash drive always mounts to the same mount-point (so as to preserve sym-links)?

Mike. ;)


Yes ...

So, after reading a lot about the puppy linux way of doing things, and trying all the helpful suggestions here, I did end up with a success (stable OS - stable browser).

I wanted a late mainline puppy version, and F96-CE4 was the one I preferred over Bionic and FossaPup.
It needed to boot of a USB ...

3 years later!

Didn't know you could this.
Its a neat little tip I just happen to stumble on whilst perusing the forum.

mikeslr

Nothing ventured nothing gained, so will per-sue other browsers to see if they are compatible with those finicky web sites of mine.
Currently I have a puppy setup with firefox mainline portable, based on various elements of the suggestions above.
As I work in terms of progressive ...

Thank you all for the inputs above, considering you are all volunteers trying to help its extra much appreciated.

Much of how Puppy Linux works does indeed espouse the KISS principle, it why I consider it worth the step into the Linux world, and bother to get it to do what I want.

mikewalsh
I ...

mikewalsh

Its a very steep learning curve for anyone that tries to change from M$ windows to any linux distro.
Even for someone like me that's reasonably tech savy, I find myself chasing unknowns at every step in being engaged.

This exercise is on my desktop PC that others would call a rusty ...

mikewalsh
mikeslr

Maybe you can help with this issue.

I now have a remastered F96-CE_4.ISO that works great with my old I7 MOBO and a not so old NVIDIA GPU.
Its installed frugally on a MBR VFAT formatted USB flash drive with an empty savefile created on first shutdown.

The suggestion from ...

Jasper

I see it, kind off a fancy task manager (I see an animated icon for it on the task bar too).
I had used task manager in the system menu before, to kill non-cooperative apps (cause task manager is also a microsoft windows program that allows "task management".

But as you said its a ...

Jasper

I am a nooby and learning many things as I go along - much by trial and error.
When Edge freezes, the whole OS freezes, and I have no functional keyboard or mouse.
Still I will try F9 when it locks up and see what happens.
I don't know what you mean by Htop (Horizontal top of the Keyboard ...

Trying out the suggestion above by mikeslr (actually easier to do than anticipated from the suggestion).

I was able to put just the portable Edge app in an adrv.sfs file, and the only thing needed to get it to run was to rerun the addmenu script to re-establish some hyper links.

It still freezes ...

I wonder if the issue is the update process that caused it not to launch for you?

I presume this is directed at mikewalsh, however edge (.deb) version works fine for me as long as I don't also include the portable firefox.
No idea why these two apps would destructively interact.

I will give ...

That's Microsoft for you.
Its why I don't use their OS for anything with a "critical" aspect to it.
Also just don't like Microsofts step wise chameleon changes to shift to their OS towards a subscription in the cloud model.

Pity though that Edge spells trouble for conversion into a portable ...

Run the Save2SFS module of that Suite to 'capture' your current configuration in an adrv.sfs.



This way is of interest to me but I obviously am missing some critical understanding of what is possible as the results are not as expected when I try.

What I did:
Remaster with the remasterme2 ...

When I remaster using "puppy remaster" from the menu, I loose sound capability (pulseaudio isn't running and there is no volume control).
If I try to start pulseaudio in a terminal, it complains it cant be run as root and if I run it as spot it also fails.

Only way I can keep pulseaudio and retain ...

While you can, I'd suggest something else.

Mike's portables make that easy and are configured to download web-cache into their portable folder.


I use a desktop PC that dates back to the days of the first gen I7 cpu (when I was still interested in building things from components!).
My ...

Currently I am setting up F96-CE for my needs, and one critical need is to be able to use the very latest version of mainline firefox.
The Firefox that is in F96-CE_4 is Firefox ESR version.
It is easily updated by using it's internal update feature.

It is the latest version of Firefox, but the ...

While you can, I'd suggest something else.


Oh boy, that suggestion is going to require some digestion of all those puppy OS operational mechanics.
I will do some more reading to see if I can come to grips with this suggestion.

Meanwhile I had a question in mind to ask mikewalsh about the ...

mikewalsh

I am sure many appreciate your effort, as you can see for yourself from the many responses about your portables.
Linux is a strange OS for those coming from M$ windows (it really is!, but the reverse probably is true as well).
So the fact that you can place these portables in any ...