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dimkr

(3) Using one or more Package Managers that set can be augmented with applications directly from the repository of that Puppy’s ‘binary-compatible’, and from among the applications created for that Puppy or for use under several Puppys. It's very typical for a Linux distro to have a package manager...

dimkr

But there does this comes from? From https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/linux-source-6.1, there are 3 things I can download: From linux-config-6.1. https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/amd64/linux-config-6.1/filelist Okay thanks, but I still don't get it. Is this the same .deb packages that I ref...

dimkr

Ok, I see that the delta is just to make certain drivers built-in (usb, sata, mmc, squashfs). Yep, it's bus/device/partition/file system/NLS options to allow it to boot plus some performance, RAM consumption and size related settings (best examples are squashfs decompressors + no huge pages by defa...

dimkr

jamesbond wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 7:35 am
Which firmware package do you use?

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... kworm#L280

dimkr

The dpup kernel is built by applying a small eelta (https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/blob/testing/kernel-kit/debian-diffconfigs/bookworm), with the Debian configuration as the base. It's a regular kernel-kit run but it begins with download of the Debian kernel source rather than a kerne...

dimkr

dmsg with no output at all That's good, this probably means that the driver is both installed and loaded. Can you reboot and share dmesg output? Also, you might want to check rfkill , maybe WiFi is blocked through software (shouldn't be) or hardware (most laptops have a key combination for this).

dimkr

If you want to unplug the flash drive you're booting from you'll need to avoid any kind of persistency and copy to RAM. You can do this by adding pfix=ram. If you're saving changes the flash drive remains mounted.

dimkr

As Fred says, you probably didn't give the script execution permissions.

If you want to use /etc/xdg/autostart instead, you'll need to create a .desktop file.

dimkr

darksun wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 8:08 am
but I was referring to the X.org version of your vanilladpup 10.*

I understand that, but I prefer to spend less of my time on deprecated stuff that will go away in future versions. If anyone volunteers to submit a fix to woof-CE, I don't mind cherry-picking this fix into a future 10.0.x release.

dimkr

darksun wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:52 pm
@dimkr perhaps could resolve this in the next build?

Redshit doesn't support Wayland so this is a dead end, I feel like it's a waste of development time.

dimkr

@Airdale My bad, it should have been /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start.

I see the driver is installed, let's see if it's loaded and no firmware is missing:

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/usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start
dmesg -c > /dev/null
modprobe wl
dmesg

dimkr

bigpup wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 8:12 am
Has this ability to unplug the USB booting from, been removed from BookwormPup64?

You should be able to do this but only if you boot with pfix=copy, or if you have enough RAM and neither pfix=copy nor pfix=nocopy was specified (default is to copy, if half your RAM is enough).

dimkr

@Airdale Please share the output of

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uname -r
find /usr/lib/modules | grep dkms 
/usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller

dimkr

Just curious, it is hold back for any reason in particular? Yes, this is intentional! 1.8.8 is lighter, and >=1.9.0 only builds with clang. But this is not stock 1.8.8 - I backported PipeWire support from 1.9.x to 1.8.8 through a patch (https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/pull/4081).

dimkr

im talking about the initial impression of the iso Most Puppy releases use xz compression for SFSs, which has the highest compression ratio (and worst decompression speeds) out of all currently available options. Everything worth compressing in the Puppy ISO is already compressed. the iso will even...

dimkr

i do believe that modularity can play a role here Modularity is not guaranteed to reduce size, splitting one compressed archive to multiple archives can increase size. If you have files A and B, both similar to each other, A is compressed in x.tar.gz and B is compressed in y.tar.gz, the total size ...

dimkr

the downside is that you can't unplug the flash drive you're live booting from That is a feature that some people want to have. Probably, but I wonder how many Puppy users actually unplug the flash drive they're booting from. They must be using Puppy without persistency, or put a save file/folder o...

dimkr

Like you say, ANYTHING you run on a 'puter will use RAM. That's what the stuff is THERE for, after all....but which is actually the most efficient way to use it? That depends on how you define efficiency, because you can't have it all. Want low RAM usage? Keep your applications outside of RAM (not ...

dimkr

Instead your fix shifts the tray and icons to the external monitor and from now on he is forced to use the external monitor as his main monitor. From my understanding, this is a JWM bug - it doesn't move the tray back to the previously disabled monitor once it's enabled. There are other and better ...

dimkr

It would be nice if we had measurements Here you go, try this: cat << EOF > /tmp/1.c int main() { for (unsigned long have = 0; ; have += 4*1024*1024) { void *a = malloc(4*1024*1024); memset(a, 0, 4*1024*1024); printf("allocated %zu\n", have); } return 0; } EOF gcc /tmp/1.c -o /tmp/1 swapo...

dimkr

SFSs consume RAM not because they're added to the aufs/overlay stack, but because initrd copies the SFS from disk to a tmpfs in RAM (and then mounts the copy). It's not squashfs, aufs or overlay that do this copying, but initird (unless you specify pfix=nocopy ). If mounted directly from disk withou...

dimkr

it is a deliberate choice of the user I don't see any reason why someone would want X to think that the internal display is still enabled (and keep the JWM tray and open windows there) after the lid is closed. xrandr should say the same, but which option? I don't remember, but without the xrandr ca...

dimkr

I am playing around with Vanilliadpup 11 again. How do I sett Firefox to open maximized under labwc? I haven't tried this myself but try to add this to ~/.config/labwc/rc.xml: <windowRule identifier="firefox"> <action name="Maximize" direction="value" /> </windowRule> ...

dimkr

Unloaded SFS 5 Mb / 2048 = .2% = little. Yes, a *mounted* SFS doesn't add much to RAM consumption, if this SFS sits on disk. But if the SFS is copied to RAM by initrd and it's 4 GB on disk, then it's going to eat 4 GB of RAM (the size of the SFS) even if the applications inside the SFS are unused. ...

dimkr

CD, DVD, USB-Stick Maybe it's time to reorder or even drop this list, most Puppy users that boot from removable media probably use a flash drive. Many don't have an optical drive, and some have one but never use it. These require little or no RAM when not in use. This is inaccurate, an application ...

dimkr

Where is the git history of these projects? How can we audit the source code and see what's changed when most of it came from one big "initial commit"?

dimkr

If you want to write a new 'fdrv trimmer' that's better than kernel-kit's one, I recommend testing on a >= Skylake laptop, especially with an AMD or NVIDIA GPU. The missing firmware is often SOF (audio) firmware that's required since Skylake AFAIK, WiFi firmware (>=802.11ac) or GPU firmware.

dimkr

X thinks the monitor is still turned on, in my case. Question was if the display visibly turns off or not. Does it? Where did you find what X "thinks"? The panel and some windows are still on the laptop monitor, which is turned off, and the window manager still allows me to move windows t...

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t turns off and disables the internal display on lid close Third attempt: @Marv 's Fujitsus (and my Fujitsu, Acer, HP and Lenovo) all turn off the internal display without the need for any software. I read that this is done via magnets in the display frame. Or are you saying that this mechanism doe...

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I've been following this discussion though I don't use external displays and my Fujitsu S761 and S762 laptops all do turn off the display on lid close. We all agree that the display turns off automatically when the system is suspended. But the new code has nothing to do with suspend - it turns off ...

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