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by dimkr
Fri May 17, 2024 8:24 am
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 392

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

jamesbond wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 4:24 am

I actually did that manually

I also cleaned up the diff manually, I kept the top-level configuration changes I made myself and removed changes to dependencies (merge_kconfig.sh takes care of dependencies). This makes the delta more 'portable' across kernel versions :)

by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 6:23 pm
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Issue installing Vanilla dpup to usb stick
Replies: 5
Views: 207

Re: critical issue with booting usb stick

The included Bootflash (under the Setup menu) should work reliably, and Balena Etcher should be able to write the ISO directly to a flash drive.

I don't know what the other installers do, but I know that some of them are broken.

by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 6:19 pm
Forum: Users
Topic: Lowest RAM and CPU puppy?
Replies: 16
Views: 402

Re: Lowest RAM and CPU puppy?

mikeslr wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 5:00 pm

I think 9 has been deprecated and 11 is developmental. But a direct link to current 10's ISO thread would help.

viewtopic.php?t=7656 is sticky and explains the differences and links to downloads, so does https://vanilla-dpup.github.io/.

by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 6:41 am
Forum: Users
Topic: Lowest RAM and CPU puppy?
Replies: 16
Views: 402

Re: Lowest RAM and CPU puppy?

If you like BookwormPup64 but want something lighter maybe you'll like Vanilla Dpup. Under the hood it's mostly the same but has fewer packages installed out of the box (for example, no conky) and the preinstalled Firefox is tuned for low resource consumption. In general, it should consume less RAM ...
by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 6:33 am
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 392

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

5. Then run make oldconfig and proceed to build as usual. One thing I would add: after the build, verify that the diff between the Debian configuration and the configuration file used to build the kernel contains only the Puppy delta plus dependencies (i.e. if a driver changed to =y depends on some...
by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 5:24 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: No wifi after upgrading Vanilla dpup. (Solved)
Replies: 7
Views: 519

Re: No wifi after upgrade. Need Broadcom STA drivers?

Don't feel too bad about this, I have a laptop where hard block is sometimes enabled randomly after reboot, especially if the battery is drained.

by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 5:13 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 275
Views: 12204

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

(3) Using one or more Package Managers that set can be augmented with applications directly from the repository of that Puppy’s ‘binary-compatible’, and from among the applications created for that Puppy or for use under several Puppys. It's very typical for a Linux distro to have a package manager...
by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 3:28 pm
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 392

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

But there does this comes from? From https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/linux-source-6.1, there are 3 things I can download: From linux-config-6.1. https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/amd64/linux-config-6.1/filelist Okay thanks, but I still don't get it. Is this the same .deb packages that I ref...
by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 1:07 pm
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 392

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

Ok, I see that the delta is just to make certain drivers built-in (usb, sata, mmc, squashfs). Yep, it's bus/device/partition/file system/NLS options to allow it to boot plus some performance, RAM consumption and size related settings (best examples are squashfs decompressors + no huge pages by defa...
by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 7:31 am
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 392

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

The dpup kernel is built by applying a small eelta (https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/blob/testing/kernel-kit/debian-diffconfigs/bookworm), with the Debian configuration as the base. It's a regular kernel-kit run but it begins with download of the Debian kernel source rather than a kerne...
by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 5:30 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: No wifi after upgrading Vanilla dpup. (Solved)
Replies: 7
Views: 519

Re: No wifi after upgrade. Need Broadcom STA drivers?

dmsg with no output at all That's good, this probably means that the driver is both installed and loaded. Can you reboot and share dmesg output? Also, you might want to check rfkill , maybe WiFi is blocked through software (shouldn't be) or hardware (most laptops have a key combination for this).
by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 7:37 pm
Forum: BookwormPup
Topic: Clicking on desktop makes all icons disappear; again and they reappear
Replies: 16
Views: 613

Re: Clicking on desktop makes all icons disappear; again and they reappear

If you want to unplug the flash drive you're booting from you'll need to avoid any kind of persistency and copy to RAM. You can do this by adding pfix=ram. If you're saving changes the flash drive remains mounted.

by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 7:33 pm
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 58
Views: 5971

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

As Fred says, you probably didn't give the script execution permissions.

If you want to use /etc/xdg/autostart instead, you'll need to create a .desktop file.

by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 10:11 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: working redshift, how? (SOLVED)
Replies: 12
Views: 819

Re: working redshift, how? (SOLVED)

darksun wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:08 am

but I was referring to the X.org version of your vanilladpup 10.*

I understand that, but I prefer to spend less of my time on deprecated stuff that will go away in future versions. If anyone volunteers to submit a fix to woof-CE, I don't mind cherry-picking this fix into a future 10.0.x release.

by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 7:51 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: working redshift, how? (SOLVED)
Replies: 12
Views: 819

Re: working redshift, how? (SOLVED)

darksun wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:52 pm

@dimkr perhaps could resolve this in the next build?

Redshit doesn't support Wayland so this is a dead end, I feel like it's a waste of development time.

by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 7:49 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: No wifi after upgrading Vanilla dpup. (Solved)
Replies: 7
Views: 519

Re: No wifi after upgrade. Need Broadcom STA drivers?

@Airdale My bad, it should have been /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start.

I see the driver is installed, let's see if it's loaded and no firmware is missing:

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/usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start
dmesg -c > /dev/null
modprobe wl
dmesg
by dimkr
Mon May 13, 2024 9:21 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 275
Views: 12204

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

bigpup wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 8:12 am

Has this ability to unplug the USB booting from, been removed from BookwormPup64?

You should be able to do this but only if you boot with pfix=copy, or if you have enough RAM and neither pfix=copy nor pfix=nocopy was specified (default is to copy, if half your RAM is enough).

by dimkr
Mon May 13, 2024 6:20 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: No wifi after upgrading Vanilla dpup. (Solved)
Replies: 7
Views: 519

Re: Broadcom STA drivers

@Airdale Please share the output of

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uname -r
find /usr/lib/modules | grep dkms 
/usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller
by dimkr
Sun May 12, 2024 9:34 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: DeaDBeeF version
Replies: 3
Views: 183

Re: DeaDBeeF version

Just curious, it is hold back for any reason in particular? Yes, this is intentional! 1.8.8 is lighter, and >=1.9.0 only builds with clang. But this is not stock 1.8.8 - I backported PipeWire support from 1.9.x to 1.8.8 through a patch (https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/pull/4081).
by dimkr
Sun May 12, 2024 5:44 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 275
Views: 12204

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

im talking about the initial impression of the iso Most Puppy releases use xz compression for SFSs, which has the highest compression ratio (and worst decompression speeds) out of all currently available options. Everything worth compressing in the Puppy ISO is already compressed. the iso will even...
by dimkr
Sat May 11, 2024 6:47 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 275
Views: 12204

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

i do believe that modularity can play a role here Modularity is not guaranteed to reduce size, splitting one compressed archive to multiple archives can increase size. If you have files A and B, both similar to each other, A is compressed in x.tar.gz and B is compressed in y.tar.gz, the total size ...
by dimkr
Sat May 11, 2024 1:57 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 275
Views: 12204

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

the downside is that you can't unplug the flash drive you're live booting from That is a feature that some people want to have. Probably, but I wonder how many Puppy users actually unplug the flash drive they're booting from. They must be using Puppy without persistency, or put a save file/folder o...
by dimkr
Sat May 11, 2024 12:22 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 275
Views: 12204

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

Like you say, ANYTHING you run on a 'puter will use RAM. That's what the stuff is THERE for, after all....but which is actually the most efficient way to use it? That depends on how you define efficiency, because you can't have it all. Want low RAM usage? Keep your applications outside of RAM (not ...
by dimkr
Fri May 10, 2024 8:59 am
Forum: Beginners Help
Topic: BookwormPup: how to prevent suspend when laptop lid closed? (Solved)
Replies: 32
Views: 944

Re: BookwormPup: how to prevent suspend when laptop lid closed? (Solved)

Instead your fix shifts the tray and icons to the external monitor and from now on he is forced to use the external monitor as his main monitor. From my understanding, this is a JWM bug - it doesn't move the tray back to the previously disabled monitor once it's enabled. There are other and better ...
by dimkr
Fri May 10, 2024 7:48 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 275
Views: 12204

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

It would be nice if we had measurements Here you go, try this: cat << EOF > /tmp/1.c int main() { for (unsigned long have = 0; ; have += 4*1024*1024) { void *a = malloc(4*1024*1024); memset(a, 0, 4*1024*1024); printf("allocated %zu\n", have); } return 0; } EOF gcc /tmp/1.c -o /tmp/1 swapo...
by dimkr
Thu May 09, 2024 4:33 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 275
Views: 12204

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

SFSs consume RAM not because they're added to the aufs/overlay stack, but because initrd copies the SFS from disk to a tmpfs in RAM (and then mounts the copy). It's not squashfs, aufs or overlay that do this copying, but initird (unless you specify pfix=nocopy ). If mounted directly from disk withou...
by dimkr
Thu May 09, 2024 5:55 am
Forum: Beginners Help
Topic: BookwormPup: how to prevent suspend when laptop lid closed? (Solved)
Replies: 32
Views: 944

Re: BookwormPup: how to prevent suspend when laptop lid closed? (Solved)

it is a deliberate choice of the user I don't see any reason why someone would want X to think that the internal display is still enabled (and keep the JWM tray and open windows there) after the lid is closed. xrandr should say the same, but which option? I don't remember, but without the xrandr ca...
by dimkr
Thu May 09, 2024 5:49 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 58
Views: 5971

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

I am playing around with Vanilliadpup 11 again. How do I sett Firefox to open maximized under labwc? I haven't tried this myself but try to add this to ~/.config/labwc/rc.xml: <windowRule identifier="firefox"> <action name="Maximize" direction="value" /> </windowRule> ...
by dimkr
Wed May 08, 2024 2:44 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 275
Views: 12204

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

Unloaded SFS 5 Mb / 2048 = .2% = little. Yes, a *mounted* SFS doesn't add much to RAM consumption, if this SFS sits on disk. But if the SFS is copied to RAM by initrd and it's 4 GB on disk, then it's going to eat 4 GB of RAM (the size of the SFS) even if the applications inside the SFS are unused. ...

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