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When leaving my converted Chromebooks on for extended periods, sometimes the screensaver would wake
to a blank screen. You could still see a faint back light, but no amount of key pressing would restore the desktop. Found that if left alone, the screensaver would re-activate and then would most of ...

Pupsave-restore version 3 now gives users a choice to add to the restore name.
viewtopic.php?p=141433#p141433

wizard

See first post for 250126 improved version 3 which adds user restore naming.

wizard

bigpup

Ah, come on Biggy, it's a first (now 2nd) release and a work in progress.

wizard's rule #15 "The greatest leap in capability is the one between NOTHING and SOMETHING

But I really do not like using the word restore.

Not sure about that one since "restore" is the standard terminology in ...

Clarity

the utility, "as stated" is NOT going to backup/restore a save in the session folder, by design. Again, this is how I understand the description presented.

Once again, that is correct, plainly stated when the program runs. It means there are some minority use cases where it currently ...

@mikewalsh

You're not limited to whatever locations you've "hard-coded" into the script

Not actually "hard-coded", rather it is retrieved from the /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE file, so it works with any drive/location where Puppy was booted.

wizard

mikeslr

Keep in mind who will be glad to have a GUI restore utility, new and casual users.

Pretty sure you qualify as an advanced user :mrgreen: , and once you understand how that part of Puppy works you can do great stuff by have having multiple savefile/folder configurations. Lots of my ...

Governor

User-friendliness is of paramount importance.

Yes, one of the hardest parts of helping users on the forum is gauging their current skills and knowledge. We are often handicapped by our own familiarity of Puppy.

Have long been an advocate of including more help and information files ...

mikewalsh

Now, don't get me wrong when I say this! I love my GUIs, it's true, but.....what's wrong with using the command-line for 'basic' stuff like this? :o I'm beginning to think we've got a generation of Puppy users who have become afraid of the thing

Easy says you youngsters, ha. Use GUI ...

@williwaw

Set up your files and directory structure for building the sfs, then in Rox , right click the directory and choose: dir2sfs. If you prefer XFE there's a way to use it too, let me know.

wizard

@governor

I really like having the information,
We all need to set our personal preferences aside and focus on who we're trying to help. That info is of little help to new and casual users.

it is easy enough to understand, and generally speaking, new users to Linux are seldom people completely ...

fredx181
Governor
backup-fredx.png

While this is an improvement, imagine you are a new or casual user trying to navigate this instruction.
Would be much easier to just have a program that can restore the backup for the user, could be referenced in above dialog.

Alternately, you could leave ...

See first post for 250125 improved version.

wizard

wiak

fredx181 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:09 am

I tested thoroughly, IMO it's an improvement altogether, however I still think that most puppy users are fine with the default pupsave-backup (oh.. those nerds ;) ).
(so if this would make it through the WOOF-CE commission ... :?: :))

I'm ...

mikewalsh

I don't think I've ever seen YAD used quite like that before..!

Guess you are referring to how the YAD statements are built. Easier for me to build and troubleshoot if they are columnar rather than linear, especially if they are long or complex. Example:

yad -- title "Example ...

Clarity

Reading the OP: "ONLY works ..."

Does this PET work if save-folder is stored within a folder on a system-drive partition (for example folder-named "Sessions")?
Curious

Nope, this release only works if the saves & backups are both in the same directory as the main install (initrd.gz ...

@bigpup

They take a look at the code used in Puppy programs and think: "This thing is already full of this stuff, someone has already gotten here ahead of us"

Thanks for the great laugh

wizard

mikewalsh

YAD is far easier to pick-up the basics of and to start achieving results with. Gtk-dialog is incredibly fussy, and needs several lines to do something that YAD can often achieve in one.....

Same choice for me, Gtk-dialog more powerful and detailed, but Yad has been much easier and ...

mikewalsh

That thread you've referenced got more than just you thinking, y'know
Yep, about 3 years ago when I was doing all the beginners howto doc's, realised we didn't have an easy restore method for Pupsave backups. Was just starting to do interactive bash using Xdialog, so took a crack at ...

Take a look here for a Puppy backup restore utility:
viewtopic.php?t=13697

wizard

Pupsave-restore can restore backups created by Pupsave Backup:
-un-compressed or compressed savefile backups
-compressed savefolder backups

Requires YAD, already installed on most modern Pups.

It was created as a result of the discussion here:
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=13648 ...

Governor

I think we can agree that compression of backups is not as as important as it once was, ie. when we were using floppy disks. I was about to suggest removing the compressed feature completely

Would disagree with this since those using Puppy from a USB flash, SDcard, small HDD, or small ...

@mikeslr

Perhaps this might help. When using URXVT terminal:

copy = highlight (highlighting any text automatically copies it to the clipboard)
paste = ctrl alt v or middle mouse button

wizard

"Compressed backups must be decompressed before use"

wizard

INSPIRON_E1505_USER
i didnt really need a computer

Always better to have and not need, than need and not have.

i do know im pushing it though

BW64 does fine on mine which has a little slower T7200 CPU. The zram really helps stretch the 3gb limitation. Also run F96-CE_4 on it which is ...

The "Getting Started and System Requirements" forum section has two post to help users understand Pupsave Backup. It's unfortunate that more users don't use that resource.

viewforum.php?f=184

wizard

rockedge

I originally avoided using the description to conserve vertical space

Debian Dogs and Fatdog already have a single bullet. Why not just add the same for the rest?
Suggest:
Puppy - * Small, fast and light single user system
EasyOS - * An experimental Linux Distribution (this from ...

@rockedge

Until we meet at the red light on Main Street......then perspectives change.

There's a lot of enjoyment in Puppy when others are agonizing over the problems and expense associated with MS Windows, Mac or even the big Linux distros.

wizard

rockedge

In the current layout these two topics should be highlighted/emphasized in some way since this information is critical for new users:
Before Installing Forum Distributions, README FIRST
Getting Started and System Requirements


Also consider copying or linking this post by bigpup ...

@Chelsea80
@INSPIRON_E1505_USER

The AI response for this is way out of bounds as it applies to Puppy. The CPU frequency app is an easy method that has been used for many years. Never been any reports of bad results. Personally use it on all my systems (which is a lot).

wizard