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wanderer

hi all

i notice that distrowatch
has marked our distro bookwormpup 64
as updated 2-22-25
this is great as we are not in danger of being marked as a dormant distro
i did not send any information in
did someone else
or did distrowatch just pick it up themselves

wanderer

wanderer

hi mikewalsh and fredx181

just put your firefox portable into slax debian12

and it works fine

thank you so much

fantastic work

wanderer

wanderer

hi fredx181

i appreciate your attempt to save me from myself

yeah probably no way to talk me out of it

thankfully i will no longer need to bug anyone about this idea
since i have my own toy to play with
if anyone else is interested they can join me by posting on this thread

and i ...

wanderer

hi fredx181 and everyone

first i would like to talk about tinycore

tinycore is a system without peer
the only problem is that they do not have the manpower
to maintain their extensions adequately
so many times the extension doesn't work

debian has the manpower
so they maintain ...

wanderer

hi all

if you are working on something
a distro or an idea
it would be great if you posted a note about it
on this thread
so everyone can know what is going on

wanderer

wanderer

hi everyone

i would just like remind everyone how well puppy world is doing
(that means everyone on the forum official puppy or not )

peebee radky and associates have created bookwormpup 64 and 32
great pieces of work
and they are our distrowatch candidates for around 1 more year

and there ...

wanderer

hi wiak

you are correct

this thread is about everything on the forum and beyond

that is to say everything

not just puppy

please post your thoughts here

and that includes everyone and everyone's thoughts

wanderer

wanderer

hi all

i continue to play with slax debian64

im very pleased with this
definitely fits the bill
i will adopt this as our minimal modular option

very easy to modify
very easy to minimize
very easy to find stuff

i encourage everyone to look into it
i will write a howto of the ...

wanderer

hey pp4mnklinux

post on this thread
you cant get accused of hijacking it
its about everything

wanderer

wanderer

hi fredx181

thanks so much for your input

the whole point is to separate the distro into a few base modules

core - with internet and apt
xorg
i would like to see a sound module
desktop
utilities - editor - file manager - xterm - image viewer - etc
browser
media player

this ...

wanderer

hi stevie pup

thanks for your review

slax debian64 definitely needs tweaking

it worked on all my stuff
and was easy for me to set up
so i didnt have the same experience as you

however
i like the way its laid out
and i think its a good base for our minimal modular option

like i ...

wanderer

hi wiak

im only talking about a small number of modules
just the base components divided logically
things most people want to customize
desktop etc
slax debian64 does it with 5 modules
6 if you include the browser
then they add what you download with the package manager in bigger ...

wanderer

hi greengeek

thanks for your reply

if you have the time
please download and play with slax debian64

i think you will be very impressed

as i said before it is exactly what i have been talking about

it is complete and polished so no more needs to be done
but i am going tweak it and ...

wanderer

i agree with dimkr

that reducing cpu and ram use is very important ( maybe the most important factor )
since on most old computers this is the limiting factor

if you have a newer computer that has plenty of ram and cpu it doesnt matter either way and its just gravy

wanderer

wanderer

hi greengeek

did you say you had something that compared to slax debian 64

wanderer

wanderer

hi wiz57

i will continue to play with slax debian 64
its a very interesting and polished system
and i think the puppy community should take a look at it
and see if there is anything we can learn from it
and if it can be useful to us

in fact the more i look at slax debian 64
the more ...

wanderer

hi all

anyone who has been reading the forum and following the puppy community
can see that the puppy community has never been more active and innovative
puppy has become a virtual distrowatch of innovation

and i have been around a long time
and know what im talking about ...

wanderer

to read this post i suggest you go to the whats up in puppy world thread

wanderer

thanks fredx181

thats the answer i was looking for

"Just one main module (and kernel module and perhaps firmware module ) is the best IMO,
as the package manager then "knows" exactly about what packages (and which versions) are inside."

wanderer

wanderer

i know opinions and cases differ
but lets say what you would do to build a puppy-like distro

i like fredx181s single script to put all the pieces together

but generally it seems like the key is the package manager

wanderer

wanderer

hi guys

thanks for taking the time to explain all this
i now am able to see the pros and cons much more clearly
i think i will give up on the modular stuff

but that leaves me with a question

in your opinion what is the best overall system to build a distro

wanderer

wanderer

hi wiak

yes i understand

im talking about a very very limited number of modules ( less than 20 )
most of which have already been made
and that will not have to change much at all over time
based on only 1 system ( debian 12 )
with apt as the package manager
that can serve as a base ...

wanderer

hi fredx181

the key is --- how --- it is organized

every distro has a small number of basic components

bootloader
kernel
ramdrive

shell and utilities
package manager

video
sound
internet

window manager
terminal
editor
file manager

browser
media player ...

wanderer

hi greengeek

take a look at slax debian 64

this is exactly what i am talking about

we could tweak it / fork it to do whatever else we want

but it is finished as it is

i am exploring / playing with it now

and will talk more about it on this thread

wanderer

wanderer

hi all

as many of you are painfully aware
i feel puppy should be made into a modular system

i have been looking around to see if i could find any distros that fit the bill
and have revisited slax which has improved since i last tried it

i am playing with slax debian 64
very ...

wanderer

hi sonny

i agree with you

as to being completely unique
that is a delusion
everything comes from something else

all linux distros use the linux kernel

as to parts of puppy that need improvement
one can build what is needed from "scratch"
( but of course you will have to use a lot ...

wanderer

take care

and come back when you can

good luck

wanderer

wanderer

hi dimkr

it seems you are doing everything that you are suggesting

you are making a cutting edge puppy (or puppy-like ) distro

people can just get behind your work if they want to go in that direction

wanderer

wanderer

hi all

to my understanding

the two bookwormpups 64 and 32
are the distrowatch candidates
and will be for about 1 year

so that is a done deal

whats up in puppy world is another thread

wanderer

wanderer

hi sonny

the only time that there actually was a main branch of puppy
was when barry k was creating puppies

barry constantly changed his system to suit his whims
so there was never any static system

and even from the very first there were innumerable variants and remasters
because it ...

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