Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

worked for me

keep the faith

wanderer

hi williwaw the extensions are just mounted they remain compressed as files and are just read changes and configurations are written in home things can be backed up as a compressed file but i never use that as writing to home is more flexible hi s243a yes the symlink system is almost infinitely ...

hi williwaw yes the system makes app bundles of debs the app and all its dependencies like flatpaks but only for dcore-stretch it does not try to cover other distros they symlink system is very simple an sce (compressed file) is mounted with a loop device (mount -o loop) and then the copy command ...

hi wiak rufwoof fredx and everyone makes me happy to see some are using symlinks to ramdrives in their work a very useful system as i have posted before the next corepup-9 will be based on dcore-stretch which is in the corepup repository on the first post this system has many interesting features it ...

hi fredx

the relevant file in dcore to load the sce (sfs) files
is in etc/initd/sce-load

wanderer

hi fredx

tinycore and dcore load sfs files
called respectively tcz and sce files
by loop mounting them
and then using cp -ais to symlink the files

wanderer

thank you very much fredx

very much on topic

also using your portable firefox in dcore (soon to be corepup-9)

and thanks again for that

wanderer

yes mike

i love puppy
will always be a fan
my primary distro is upupbb32 (thanks peebee)

but trying to improve puppy

i have a new computer with i7 and 32 gigs of ram
cant wait to try puppy on it

wanderer

dcore-plus stretch is a good place to start because it includes a window manager and wifi but it can be stripped down to the size of dcore i am going to use dcore stretch because i like debian and dont trust ubuntu no need for the most up to date version because we want something stable to work on ...

i put dcore-plus and dcore
in the corepup respository
so they are easy to get to

wanderer

hey i like the poem thing

try dcore-plus
it has a window manager

but a whole bunch of window managers can be easily added
including corepup-jwm
a very stripped down version of jwm i use for corepup

wanderer

hi williwaw yes simple enough for anyone to use and develop even me try it i am going to turn dcore stretch into corepup 9 dcore is actually the better system and puppy tinycore and dcore can all be merged together will post more on the corepup thread wanderer

hi all

take a look at dcore stretch
if some of the gurus would focus their genius there
great things would be accomplished

symlinks to a ramdrive
makes bundles of debian apps and dependencies

wanderer

hi 243a once you begin experimenting with using symlinks instead of unionfs you will see how much better the system is many many advantages no whiteout files no need for the processor to reconcile the layers ability to load and unload compressed and uncompressed folders without rebooting etc etc etc ...

hi all this post is in part an answer to both the perennial question of a stripped down puppy but also a suggestion on how puppy could be improved the heart of puppy is 1. the concept (small fast flexible full featured) 2. and all the cool apps developed by the puppy community the puppy boot process ...

hi rufwoof your system certainly meets the criteria for a minimalist modular system (and then some) and is of great interest please continue to post and explain how it works and is built it is a little complex for me but i am slowly getting it some questions no unionfs system is used only symlinks ...

hi rufwoof

sounds great

do you have an iso for pugdog
can i substitute the extlinux bootloader and put it on a usb

wanderer

can you compare your system to this it seems as i am reading your posts that you variably compile/add many components to the kernel and initrd rather than keeping them separate as extensions also did you say your system was taken from pieces of fatdog does it use puppy sfs files or pets wanderer

hi rufwoof corepup/tinycore/dcore consists of 4 components 1 bootloader 2 kernel 3 initrd 4 compressed extensions the extensions are loaded using symlinks and can be many small individual pieces as in tinycore or large bundles of dependencies supporting an app as in dcore corepup also uses a simple ...

hi rufwoof

i am trying to follow what you are doing
now digesting it
very interesting

what wiak is doing with weedog
is also very interesting

but a little complex for me

wanderer

it is very easy to build and maintain multiple versions of the system since 2 folders on the drive hold the extension files the tce folder for the compressed extension files and the home folder for the uncompressed extension files all one has to do is download/gather the desired extension files and ...

here is an interesting thing you can do with symlinks let us say you have a folder with an app in it named app1 (for example in home) and you symlink it to root / it is now mounted if you change the name of the folder to another name say app1x the symlinks cannot find it and it is now unmounted if ...

with corepup/tinycore/dcore the symlink system is one of the great strengths of this system it is much more robust and flexible than the union file system since it has no overhead another great strength is having the ramdrive be the root filesystem and having extensions symlinked into it so at ...

hi luke download tinycore 11 first and start with that play with it a little and go to the tinycore website and read the corebook there are 2 basic variants tinycore and dcore both on the tinycore website tinycore divides the dependencies up and loads only what is needed it uses the tinycore ...

hi luke puppy linux is great but difficult to strip down there is even some question if stripping puppy down is useful since it is a tightly integrated system with lots of little gems sewn in if you want a system that starts with a tiny core and just adds what you want you should look at corepup ...

hi all

does anyone want to make an absolutely minimal puppy core with woof-ce
just cli
so that everything else can be added as an sfs file

just asking for fun

wanderer

thanks mikesir

will check it out

wanderer

so my universal package manager

is to use uextract to extract it into a folder
and then squash it into an sfs file
(maybe rename it tcz for corepup/tinycore)

or leave it as an uncompressed folder
and symlink it using the copy command

sometimes it works

pretty advanced

wanderer

thanks s243a

will look for it
( i see it )

wanderer

thanks MochiMoppell

i removed all preceding spaces
and it worked

wanderer