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by wiak
Sun May 26, 2024 1:57 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 313
Views: 14004

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

Might help??: https://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-bookwormpup/Puppy%20Linux%20Release%20Announcement.html Can we get @BarryK to "announce" the "release" on his blog? When was that written and put on ibiblio? Seems like people been wasting a lot of their own time and effo...
by wiak
Sun May 26, 2024 12:31 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 313
Views: 14004

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

Might help??: https://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-bookwormpup/Puppy%20Linux%20Release%20Announcement.html Can we get @BarryK to "announce" the "release" on his blog? When was that written and put on ibiblio? Seems like people been wasting a lot of their own time and effo...
by wiak
Sat May 25, 2024 3:00 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Supplemental Modules are loaded and unloaded 'on the fly'. I presume this doesn't assume an aufs-based Puppy only since seems to be a move towards using overlayfs as the default in Puppy too(?) In other words is Puppy using the symlink method of loading sfs on the fly and is that considered stable ...
by wiak
Sat May 25, 2024 12:27 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

As far as KL is concerned, or at least KL based on FirstRib initrd, I'm looking to write some small booklet so have a bit text started and stored here: viewtopic.php?p=120838#p120838

by wiak
Sat May 25, 2024 12:25 pm
Forum: Kennel Linux
Topic: What is Kennel Linux ?
Replies: 23
Views: 2552

Re: What is Kennel Linux ?

This document creation date: 25May2024 Revised: 25May2024 The Kennel Linux FirstRib-based distros HISTORY AND ... The original FirstRib-based distros were called WeeDog distros. However, since much user-level functionality was missing, I suggested a few years ago, in a PM to the main admin and creat...
by wiak
Thu May 23, 2024 5:39 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Maybe I misunderstood this reply , feel free to correct me. Whether intended or not, it is impossible for me to say that Vanilla Dpup is not being considered a replacement of traditional Puppy Linux. Vanilla Dpup has a developer, who was Puppy Linux last real developer so of course people who use P...
by wiak
Thu May 23, 2024 11:51 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

But the 'What's up' problem in that brave new kennel-related world is that Puppy itself is effectively killed off and replaced by a distro called Vanilla Dpup whose sole developer is dimkr. If that becomes the case, this forum should definitely be rebranded and Vanilla Dpup only receive a small sec...
by wiak
Thu May 23, 2024 1:34 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

There is nothing stopping Puppy from using upstream package managers, be it apt, xbps, or anything like it. If you like it so much, then by all means build a Puppy with it. It's not like there is a rule saying that Puppy can only use PPM, or Puppy cannot use upstream tools etc. Whether or not it wi...
by wiak
Thu May 23, 2024 1:33 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

There is nothing stopping Puppy from using upstream package managers, be it apt, xbps, or anything like it. If you like it so much, then by all means build a Puppy with it. It's not like there is a rule saying that Puppy can only use PPM, or Puppy cannot use upstream tools etc. Whether or not it wi...
by wiak
Wed May 22, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Let me make this quite clear. FirstRib-based KL distro was never designed with the idea of being a new Puppy or a replacement for it. Nor, I believe, was Debiandog; they are alternative distro designs altogether, which deserve full forum support too, but not twisted into some new Puppy use. Both DD ...
by wiak
Wed May 22, 2024 5:23 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

If this forum wants to keep some variation of Puppy Linux alive it should work on changing woof-CE design and reject integration of the likes of apt or Void Linux xbps for that matter. These package managers should only, at most, be available as optional sfs addon system components. There is a reaso...
by wiak
Wed May 22, 2024 5:06 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

help me develop the 1 script 1 template build system Actually tbere is no such build system used on this forum. Debiandog, for example relies on debootstrap which is a relatively large, complicated multi-script build system maintained and provided by official Debian. A frontend script that calls up...
by wiak
Wed May 22, 2024 4:21 pm
Forum: Corepup
Topic: Corepup - a minimalist modular system
Replies: 153
Views: 26462

Re: Corepup - a minimalist modular system

Best to archive whole dog incubator section to Other Distros; it isnt progressing and I feel it isnt likely to.

by wiak
Mon May 20, 2024 2:24 am
Forum: Users
Topic: amethyst (a long time member of this forum) has decided to stop posting
Replies: 38
Views: 3873

Re: amethyst (a long time member of this forum) has decided to stop posting

I treated Wiak with respect. You don't even know what you deleted and you can't admit it. I won't be here soon and you can do whatever you want. That's fine, but I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Deleted what?! EDIT: Is it bigpup you are talking to or is it me? I certainly did n...
by wiak
Mon May 20, 2024 2:15 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Sharing source code in forums works only in small, amateur projects that don't change much and have mostly one developer. Well, that depends on the overall build mechanism and strategy employed. For example, the FirstRib-based distro development method revolves around the creation of a single text ...
by wiak
Mon May 20, 2024 1:48 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Clarity wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:23 pm

WoofCE has an advantage in that its generation can be done on GIT rather than on the local PC.

Indeed, though I believe that could be done (arranged) for any of the other scripted build systems.

by wiak
Mon May 20, 2024 1:44 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Not being familer with how the different build scripts work, I wish to ask if building the initrd is scripted or needs special expertise and attention by the dev. for debian dog? Puppy? Easy? KL's? For FirstRib, yes, there is a build script for building the whole FR initrd. In practice that particu...
by wiak
Mon May 20, 2024 1:16 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 78
Views: 6896

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

The next development build replaces most remaining uses of Xdialog and gtkdialog with yad. I've long also thought that that was the best way forward for Puppy Linux more generally. Gtkdialog is too big a burden to try and support into the future. Other small distros made similar decision to ditch g...
by wiak
Sun May 19, 2024 4:29 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

A build system that churns out clones of the same build have limited usefulness whether auto-done by github or run on local host system. Not many forum members I feel have the ability, or at least the knowledge, to alter the result produced by woof-CE. More important is how easy the build can be cha...
by wiak
Sun May 19, 2024 4:08 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

could the FirstRib developers make a script to produce a base iso that is usable as a working distro just jwm -rox xterm text editor - geany firefox media player image viewer - viewnior internet access so anyone could just run the script and build the iso and use it for basic tasks This could be do...
by wiak
Sun May 19, 2024 10:49 am
Forum: Users
Topic: amethyst (a long time member of this forum) has decided to stop posting
Replies: 38
Views: 3873

Re: amethyst (a long time member of this forum) has decided to stop posting

@rockedge By the way. If @bigpup does not explain within 24 hours what was offensive in my post , then I will leave you too. Maybe @wiak was offended by something there or something? @Grey I have no idea what the post said. I never read it or knew it even existed. I have other problems. ....does no...
by wiak
Sun May 19, 2024 8:01 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

One thing that I see is now always needed in a Puppy version is the Apt Package Manager. I have never understood this concept. I never saw anything wrong with the PPM idea of accessing packages that have been tested (or developed) by fellow Puppians. Does "Apt" have any understanding of t...
by wiak
Sun May 19, 2024 4:04 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

One thing that I see is now always needed in a Puppy version is the Apt Package Manager. That would imply a change concerning Puppy in that it was marketed as being multi-distro type. Apt means Debian-based, meaning Debian, Ubuntu, or Devuan; implying no Void, Arch, Slackware Pup instances. Underst...
by wiak
Sun May 19, 2024 3:57 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

By the way, a certain percentage of my acquaintances and friends do not trust developers who themselves do not use (all the time) the OS they develop or support. OK, let's soften the term a bit ;) ... It's not that they don't trust, but rather they are... wary. Ah good, I'm trusted then, since thou...
by wiak
Sat May 18, 2024 5:08 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

so let us all work together for the common good wanderer I am sure most people on this forum nowadays actually have that same view, but a couple of louder mouths make it seem otherwise. One trick these people have against me is to make out I'm FirstRib/KL centric only, which is a lot of nonsense. I...
by wiak
Sat May 18, 2024 4:53 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

If people here want up-to-date nice Puppy distros in the future then beware current state of 'official' woof-CE Puppy build system. That's really all I'm saying. I'm not at all myself advocating any KL or DebianDog as some kind of new pseudo Puppy - they are not that or trying to be that. Puppy is P...
by wiak
Sat May 18, 2024 4:26 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4904

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

i would like to start it by mentioning how impressed i am with fredx181s debiandog it is truly a masterpiece everyone should check it out i would also like wiak if he has the time to explain how his project works Alas, my family have been ripped off in a house build, which we now put all our effort...
by wiak
Sat May 18, 2024 12:09 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Kennel Linux Distrowatch presence
Replies: 7
Views: 269

Kennel Linux Distrowatch presence

Kennel Linux has never applied to be featured via Distrowatch, which limits outside knowledge of its existence to Puppy Forum visitors, most of whom presumably come here with only an interest in Puppy itself. Since FirstRib based distros have been usefully available since early 2019, with many power...
by wiak
Sat May 18, 2024 7:26 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 313
Views: 14004

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

By todays standards, Puppy Linux remains a reasonably small distro, that continues to provide an impressive range of often small applications and utilities that provide a great deal of every day needed functionality. It is also simple to install, easy to maintain, and full of flexible features that...
by wiak
Wed May 15, 2024 5:40 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 313
Views: 14004

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

This is unique to Puppy.

It isn't. I am pretty sure that is not even unique for the various other distros that have thread sections on this forum. Any distro that offers save from RAM persistence, only when user wants to, provides that useful characteristic. Check Slax, antiX and so on.

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