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by dimkr
Mon May 27, 2024 11:51 am
Forum: Beginners Help
Topic: Creating archive to install program and dependencies on offline system.
Replies: 22
Views: 505

Re: Creating archive to install program and dependencies on offline system.

If you have a Puppy with apt (like BookwormPup32) you can download .deb packages without installing them, through the terminal: apt-get --print-uris --yes install thunar | cut -f 2 -d \' | grep ^http | while read x; do wget $x || break; done (And don't be surprised if an application installed throug...
by dimkr
Mon May 27, 2024 5:53 am
Forum: Kernels
Topic: woof-CE kernel packages
Replies: 14
Views: 1258

Re: woof-CE kernel packages

I wonder if it would be possible to include in the next schedule, a 5.4 kernel? https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/issues/4166#issuecomment-1791996239 It is possible, but somebody needs to be committed to maintaining the kernel configuration file and fixing build failures. aufs for 5.4.x...
by dimkr
Sun May 26, 2024 8:19 pm
Forum: Beginners Help
Topic: Dpup64 and Xenial64 boot and shutdown times differ
Replies: 10
Views: 153

Re: Dpup64 and Xenial64 boot and shutdown times differ

BookwormPup64 10.0.6 predates https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/pull/4272 and doesn't include this optimization of boot time. If a 10.0.7 is ever released, it should boot faster. I bet shutdown time can be reduced, too, but I haven't looked at this.

by dimkr
Sun May 26, 2024 4:34 pm
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 77
Views: 6835

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

@retiredt00 That's because you're trying to install a single package as opposed to letting apt install its dependencies. Do what you'd do in Debian, which is connecting to a wired network to install the WiFi driver.

by dimkr
Sun May 26, 2024 11:43 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 77
Views: 6835

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

@retiredt00 It's not included because it should work just fine if you install it, e.g. apt install broadcom-sta-dkms should work just fine

by dimkr
Sun May 26, 2024 9:00 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 77
Views: 6835

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

@retiredt00 You'll see the partitions inside the image after losetup -fP --show /path/to/image

by dimkr
Sat May 25, 2024 5:17 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

fredx181 True, it took months until the first feature requests and bug reports, so the silence after this first wave doesn't indicate much. And I also think that SFSs are not as widely used as they used to be: you don't need devx if you have apt and DKMS, and some folks seem to use these 'portable'...
by dimkr
Sat May 25, 2024 4:15 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Supplemental Modules are loaded and unloaded 'on the fly'. I presume this doesn't assume an aufs-based Puppy only since seems to be a move towards using overlayfs as the default in Puppy too(?) In other words is Puppy using the symlink method of loading sfs on the fly and is that considered stable ...
by dimkr
Sat May 25, 2024 8:19 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 77
Views: 6835

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

Lots of new stuff! 1. Transmission is back to Debian Testing, so it's back 2. Bootflash, pup-advert-blocker, firewall_ng, pupswap and pretty much everything except /etc/acpi/actions/acpi_poweroff.sh is reimplemented using yad instead of gtkdialog 3. The build output is produced using bootflash: the ...
by dimkr
Sat May 25, 2024 8:06 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

automatically saved for reboot or shutdown. The first part was correct, 12 means that changes are saved directly to the save folder and there's nothing that needs to be explicitly saved on shutdown. I think it would be simpler to say that Puppy can run persistently, non-persistenly or in a persiste...
by dimkr
Fri May 24, 2024 6:05 pm
Forum: Beginners Help
Topic: A puppy linux version that already has GLIB >=2.40?
Replies: 10
Views: 350

Re: A puppy linux version that already has GLIB >=2.40?

glib and glibc are not the same thing. If you need one of them to be >=2.40 it must be glib and not glibc.

by dimkr
Fri May 24, 2024 3:31 pm
Forum: Other Distros
Topic: Damn Small Linux is back!
Replies: 20
Views: 1412

Re: Damn Small Linux is back!

Some 'small' distros achieve their small size using extra compression, so they trade size for CPU and RAM consumption during decompression. Some also leave out important features like GPU acceleration (which increases battery life) and extra fonts (so browser has to download fonts). 'Small distro' i...
by dimkr
Thu May 23, 2024 6:41 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Whether intended or not, it is impossible for me to say that Vanilla Dpup is not being considered a replacement of traditional Puppy Linux. BookwormPup64 is very close Vanilla Dpup 10.0.x because it's originally based on it. If you consider BookwormPup64 to be a 'official' and 'traditional' Puppy, ...
by dimkr
Thu May 23, 2024 3:21 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

@dimkr you seem to indicated I am simply toying around killing time while you are doing "actual development work". Does this summarize your stance? Not at all! What I mean is, I have no intention to somehow take control of the Puppy 'brand', puppylinux.com or the forum, both because I don...
by dimkr
Thu May 23, 2024 4:58 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

wiak Nothing is 'replaced' and nothing is 'destroyed', your wording is way too dramatic. I'm doing the development work for Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x in a fork so I have complete freedom to make changes and don't break the upstream woof-CE that's still in use by others. Forking a project to make changes ...
by dimkr
Wed May 22, 2024 6:37 pm
Forum: Users
Topic: how DO we go about building a Puppy using Woof-CE?
Replies: 47
Views: 3350

Re: how DO we go about building a Puppy using Woof-CE?

rockedge wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:40 pm

@dimkr can you point me in the right direction to begin to utilize this excellent feature?

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... specs#L102

Just add deps:yes to your DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS lines

by dimkr
Wed May 22, 2024 3:20 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

one of the primary reasons our distro is stagnating is that it is tied to a build system that is not usable for the majority of our members The primary reason is lack of skilled and motivated developers (see https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/graphs/contributors and https://github.com/pu...
by dimkr
Wed May 22, 2024 10:33 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: VanillaDPup 10.0.53 fails to load save-folder? (solved)
Replies: 5
Views: 157

Re: VanillaDPup 10.0.53 fails to load save-folder?

Can you share your boot loader configuration? Maybe you're using pfix=ram.

by dimkr
Wed May 22, 2024 10:28 am
Forum: Users
Topic: how DO we go about building a Puppy using Woof-CE?
Replies: 47
Views: 3350

Re: how DO we go about building a Puppy using Woof-CE?

When a puppy is created and a list of packages is read from DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS, are those packages downloaded only from puppy repos? See https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/blob/65afaa198f82a415986a907af7dda3f96cc7e2f7/woof-code/README.pkgs_specs#L43 It's a list of packages, some are .pet ...
by dimkr
Wed May 22, 2024 8:05 am
Forum: Beginners Help
Topic: A puppy linux version that already has GLIB >=2.40?
Replies: 10
Views: 350

Re: A puppy linux version that already has GLIB >=2.40?

BookwormPup64 should have 2.74.6 and that's new enough. You'll probably create many problems if you try to retrofit new glib in an old Puppy.

by dimkr
Wed May 22, 2024 5:23 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

The 'retro' variant is currently at 314 MB, but you pay a big price for this small size: decompression is CPU-intensive, hardware support is limited, online videos drain the battery unless you add VA-API drivers, websites look funny or even broken due to limited font selection ... Anyone who uses th...
by dimkr
Tue May 21, 2024 8:46 pm
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 77
Views: 6835

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

@d-pupp Packages are removed from Debian Testing all the time and return once they don't break anything anymore. This is normal. Don't forget you're using a development build, not a stable release.

by dimkr
Tue May 21, 2024 6:19 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

mikewalsh wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:14 pm

I'm trying out VanillaDPup 10.0.53 ATM.

But I was talking about 11.0.x, which is still in early development :)

10.0.x is very similar to BookwormPup64 because the latter is based on it.

by dimkr
Tue May 21, 2024 4:30 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

A symlink can be used to cut size by half when you have two identical files. But I don't see how symlinks can (loslessly) shrink a 1 GB sized Puppy (= unique files with total size of 1 GB) to 400 MB. And if your 400 MB distro doesn't have drivers and firmware to connect to the internet, you can't do...
by dimkr
Tue May 21, 2024 3:43 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

inevitably means returning to "apt-get" and the use of Synaptic for everything..... Wrong, .pet packages work, SFSs work and even Flatpak works. I believe that it's also going to mean that many of the uniquely Puppy methods of implementing software will cease to work Wrong, you'd be surpr...
by dimkr
Tue May 21, 2024 12:34 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

after all you do the work This was never true, and now that I left the woof-CE organization, I don't have the permissions to touch woof-CE: I can only open pull requests and hope that somebody merges them. And I have no control of other people's decisions whether or not to make contributions of the...
by dimkr
Tue May 21, 2024 6:00 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

It always seems to me like all the 'future of Puppy' threads miss at least one of 1. A detailed but clear vision - what Puppy should be like, what current features can be retired and what new things should be worked on (usually it's unclear or super general and vague - 'modular', 'light' ...) 2. Con...
by dimkr
Mon May 20, 2024 2:49 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

wanderer This is exactly the direction I'm going for in my Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x development builds, and my plan is to have a polished distro by the time Debian 13 is out. It's much closer to Debian compared to today's Puppy, and it should be surprisingly light and snappy, although size is about the ...
by dimkr
Mon May 20, 2024 2:00 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

and why cant we simply " borrow " the browser components from one of the bigger distros debian for instance You can borrow Debian's Chromium, but it needs Debian's PipeWire to do screen capture, access your camera and play audio, it needs Debian's GPU drivers for GPU-accelerated playback,...
by dimkr
Mon May 20, 2024 8:28 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 166
Views: 4882

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Why shackle Puppy with that requirement? An OS that can't run a full-featured modern browser is not super useful. Modern multimedia tools for Linux do this through PipeWire, modern browsers are starting to depend on GTK+ 4 ... once PipeWire is the only supported screen capture or audio playback bac...

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